Working on the Fourth and Fifth tests, and have managed to get everyone on board with me being "the Man" except for a few councilors. Orvas Dren, I can't find. People keep saying they've seen him on the top of St. Olm's, but I'm not finding him there.

And then there are three different Redoran councilors that are somewhere between "Mmmmm maybe" to one of them (can't remember the name) who outright says, "When hell freezes over." Had a similar problem with a councilor from another house and some other character (another house lord, I thinik) said, "Kill him."...Tried that with this last councilor and all I got was a warning that I better go back to my last saved game because I just killed an essential component of the prophesies.

Oh, and then there's Varvur Sarethi...The man refuses to feel better, regardless of what I do for him. He says something about an ash statue, which I got rid of a long time ago, but he still says, "Sorry, feeling bad, maybe if you got rid of this ash statue (that isn't there any more)..."

???

UESP has the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Orvas_Dren about your question.

Well, that's the answer for ONE of the councilors...Trouble is that I got the wrong one. lol I meant Dram Bero, not Orvas Dren. Already killed Dren. I'll go fishing around that link and see if I can find additional helps. Thanks.

Search all the houses in St.olms plaza. He is deleberately hidden. So you got to search for him, and have the ability to open locks.

Dram Bero's location is appropriate for this Halloween season. As pointed out, you'll have to be able to deal with a lock as well.

Yeah, I found him...Thought I had already searched that area (and maybe I did but not during the MQ previously). But anyway...Got all the details worked out with the Redoran councilors as well somehow. Not sure what I did, but I finally managed to get Athryn Sarethi to talk to me without having to clear his son first (and then managed to figure out the ash statue thing finally and cleared Varvur!). So, I'm moving forward, but now am at a loss as to what to do for the Sixth Test. The Urshulaku wise lady didn't know and she was supposed to be my advisor, so now I'm screwed unless ya'll can help me out? Tried searching the Wiki and it said there was no entry for that topic...??

Refresh my memory, please. What was the Sixth Test?

lol....That's what Nibani Mesa said. And she was supposed to know.

There are seven tests in all, to determine if you're the Nerevarine....right? "Sixth Test" is a dialogue option with a few NPC's, though no one seems to know much about it when you select that option. So, that's the point in me asking the forum. I don't know either, and was hoping to be clued in here.

Did you complete the 'fourth' trial, 'uniting the ashland tribes'? After you finsh fourth AND fifth trial, go back to Nibani Maesa and then she says what to do.

Also, read the letters given by Athyn sarethi after being named Redoran Hortotar. One of them also offers the clue.

Ya know, I THOUGHT so...But 1) Maesa had no idea, and 2) some other chick at the temple was like, "Shhhhh! Dont talk to me til you pass the fourth and fifth tests!!" I was like, "...????"

How do you tell? I could swear I convinced EVERYONE (that I didn't kill) that I'm hortator and Neverine material. Is there a menu somewhere -- oh wait...Maybe I can match journal entries up with the lists of the heads of everything. Should all be in my journal...(Right??)

The letters given by Athyn...Dont think I received such a thing(s)? Got something from the Archcanon about coming to see him after I passed the fourth and fifth tests....Is THAT itself #6?

Its certainly worth going to see him. Just watch out for Ordinators in Vivec. If you've been named Nevarine don't talk to them.

The great houses can name you hortator, the ashlander tribes can name you nerevarine. It sounds like you haven't dealt with the tribes yet, like hollajith suggested.

Maesa and company are not the only ashlander camp, and you will need to convince each tribe seperately. After that I think one last trip to Maesa to complete the quest is required to make it official.