Knight Role-Play Help.

Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:02 pm

Like killing a dragon that threatened the Hold? :)

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HARDHEAD
 
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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:33 am

Well, i guess you could use it as more of a starting/jumping off point.

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Ash
 
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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:34 pm


Clarify, explain?
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Eilidh Brian
 
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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:28 am

Moral judgement, or explain the 'not so' chivalrous choices.

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Inol Wakhid
 
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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:37 pm


Guess I should start with some backstory:

Her ancestors were Daedra Worshippers, not satanic style, but nice peaceful Worshippers. When she was young the Daedric Prince Hermae-Mora saw her destiny, and she could also be useful in furthering some of his long-term plans. So from a young girl he's been making her a tool for him to control but yet is still her own person. That explains why she can be Chivalrous a lot but also occasionally does some things that would get her hanged.
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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:58 am

Yes, that is a very good one, but as far as I can remember that's the only big deed you have to do to become thane. Even then it's only because it's part of the main plot.

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Charlotte Lloyd-Jones
 
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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:14 am

Sure. My point was only that it provides the necessary in-game reason to be made a "knight." It's a service worthy of knighthood, at least in the opinion of Jarl Balgruuf.

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Sherry Speakman
 
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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:02 am

Also, she isn't a Daedra Worshiper, she is someone who is unknowingly being used by a Daedra
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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:48 am

Try to be a kind of Luke Skywalker. Remember him in the magical tree, where he cuts off the head of the vision of Darth Vader, only to see his own face behind the mask? He then cuts off the very same hand belonging to Darth Vader as he lost in Cloud City? It's all hinting that he's slowly turning to the Dark Side. However, he realises just in time and rejects the path he's unwittingly on.

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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:32 pm

I posted a link to a video earlier on this thread, it ties in to what I want to do with the character, find it and just listen around the end.
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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:17 am

In my opinion a real knight would use his/her sword as the last resort when facing human beings.
So depending on how much your character is influenced, she might prefer talking and draw her sword only to defend herself or others.
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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:25 am

Well when your one woman (what's the female equivalent of a knight) against 13 or so bandits, well talking isn't on your list of what to do. I'm devoting time to her Enchanting and Smithing abilities, wanna be able to enchant her armor with some good stuff. Any enchant ideas, I will be using the perks 5/5 Enchanter all the way up to Duel Enchantment. As for smithing it's going to be Advanced armor and The perk that allows you to upgrade Enchanted items
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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:00 am

Well, the nearest term to "female Knight" I could find (after an exhaustive three-and-a-half minute search of the internet) is "Dame." Now maybe I've seen too many Film Noirs, but calling a fierce warrior a "dame" just doesn't sound right to me.

The Wiki page on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dame says this about an 11th Century woman combatant: "One woman to wear full armour into battle was the Duchess Gaita of Lombardy, who rode beside her Norman mercenary husband. She was a knight in her own right."

So I guess "Knight" is probably the most appropriate word. :shrug:

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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:09 am

I was actually just thinking out loud when I typed that question, wasn't meant to be answered.

I was reminded when I play her she isn't a full knight, I created her so she was essentially a role model. I want her to be the Nord all Nords should be. I was actually inspired by this song, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8BHKLVr_Cxw
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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:19 am

That's where "drawing the sword for defending herself or others" comes into play.

What I meant was that she wouldn't go out and kill everyone who looks the wrong way at her.
And fighting "worthy opponents" would mean that she wouldn't kill them, as knights usually don't kill people who yield to them (you could get a mod where yielding enemies don't attack anymore).

Or if there is a thief encounter she could scare him off with a high speech level and wouldn't have to kill the thief (if that's possible, as I never had a high speech level in Skyrim).

And what's with the youtube links all the time?

Feels like you are promoting stuff.

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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:46 am


Promoting no, but the dude is great. I was hearing the song and was inspired to do a Nord playthrough, but people aren't getting it. Yes, she isn't a full knight, I want her to be a role model.
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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:53 pm

Kyne is the Kiss At The End. Kyne is not Kynareth/Kinrethi. Kyne is the Head of the Nordic Pantheon, Warrior Goddess, Shield Wife of Shor that gave Mortals the ability to Shout like the Mighty Dragons.

Death Brings New Life, and to bring an Honorable Death to an Opponent is to grant Them entrance to the Halls of Shor. Those found lacking become fertiliser and get recycled in the Dreamsleeve.

I have done a few similiar playthroughs, but My characters used Shock Spells and Shouts.

The Harbinger should try and be a Role Model of Nordic Honor, and trying to walk like Kyne is exactly what Your character is trying to do, when not having Her mind played with by Hermae Mora tentacles :nod:

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Averielle Garcia
 
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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:00 am


That's great! That's basically what mine is. She isn't a Knight at all in fact, but I built her so she was the Role Model of all Nords. Is that what you mean?
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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:42 am

Yes.

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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:34 am

If you want to play a knight, I think it best to start her off as a knight. I would say that she has already served her time as a squire (she started young). She is recognized by her tutors as prodigy who, with little or no guidance, can quickly master any skill she sets her mind on learning (our characters progress quickly in Skyrim). She may have already accomplished one or more deeds in battle to impress her lord.

I would make her of noble birth, so that she is entitled to her knighthood. She is noble, no commoner, and she is qualified in ability, and therefore she receives her rank as her right, not as a gift.

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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:24 pm

The OP's proposed build kind of reminds me of my "Valkyrie" build I made a while back, though with some differences. She wielded a greatsword, but she was just as proficient in archery and never touched alchemy. She was also the only character I made who regularly used shouts. Nordic carved armor was her preferred gear (except for the helm, which IMO ruins the bad-assery of the rest of the suit).

She was courageous, but not "chivalrous" in the Christian sense. The virtues she adhered to were more personal and less pious, sort of like http://thewisdomwarrior.com/2010/09/17/the-nine-noble-virtues-viking-values-for-the-warrior-lifestyle/. She was motivated more by fortune and glory than by fealty or religious duty, and even villains can have songs written about them, if the story is told well. I haven't recreated her since my last mod meltdown, but this thread is making me think I should...

As to specific questions, the enchantments that spring immediately to mind are Fortify Heavy Armor, Fortify Health, Fortify Stamina, and Fire and Frost Resistance. The middle of the tree will ehance the first three, but TBH I don't know whether the left branch has any impact on elemental resistances. Take whatever flavor weapon enchants you want (except maybe frost damage, since frost resistance is so prevalent). However, if you regularly use a companion, I'd warn you off the Fear enchants. I learned that the hard way when Lydia aggroed an entire nest of Falmer while chasing a feard Chaurus to the end of the map...

Skills are naturally your preference, but as has been pointed out, the attack perks that rely on maneuvering can be tricky to pull off, especially with two-handed weapons. Even though the weapon type perks are "sub-optimal," I tend to spec into them anyway, just because I prefer passive perks.

As to the Hermaeus Mora thing, I'm not sure I understand fully. Are you saying that your character has zero free will? Is there no conflict between HM's string-pulling and the character's own wishes? Also, as I understand HM (and I'm probably wrong), his whole schtick is to uncover and control hidden knowledge - as his champion, how would you justify your character's actions with that in mind? For example, how would HM gain from having you join the DB?

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Post » Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:50 am

Knights are just http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tool with a sword who don't have [censored] all over them . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGL76f2v1dA

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