Its very fun in your first Morrowind play through finding the artifacts, although the static nature makes the second playthrough (And so on) less fun because you know exactly where everything is. Alternatively, you most likely never find all of the major artifacts on your first playthrough, so its pretty easy to get pleasantly surprised even after years of playing.

Yes just about every gaming magazine knows about it.

But nope its not like Grand Theft Auto. Grand Theft Auto is currently the greatest sand box game, in both my mind and the minds of everyone else.


Edit: Now that i think about it Fallout is more popular than Elder scrolls.

I'm also an "older than most of you" female, except I've been gaming for over 30 years. Got into TES when Arena was released. Don't make the mistake of assuming that everyone in my demographic wants the same things from games. The improvements I'd like to see might be similar to what you'd like to see, or what my teenaged nephew wants to see. I read Canis Humanis's response. I agree with some of her suggestions, but not all of them. Each gamer can only speak for him or herself, regardless of demographic.

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But seriously, I think OB was a huge success for Bethesda, and MW was a cult classic, I remember DF being more widespread but maybe that's cuz I was in high school and every nerd I knew was playing it like a drug when it first came out...

Fallout rode mostly on OB's success, basically being OB with guns, not Fallout's fanbase, since FO was also a cult classic and the FO fans for the most part were not down with the updating done to their beloved isometric rpg.

I think OB and FO are inextricably linked in that way since the gameplay is so similar. I just hope they don't introduce the combat system from FO back into OB, that needs to stay firmly planted in the future...

When I personally think of RPG franchises, none stick out to me more than TES, even though things like FF and such are far more popular, I personally could care less what Square is doing because those games...um...blow imho (don't hurt me!).

As far as western RPGs, unless its an MMO or something recent like DA, nothing in my mind has really held its own like TES for such a long time. Baldur's Gate has fallen by the way side, and things like Mass Effect and Dragon Age are too young to have the history that TES has.

This doesn't really answer the question, but I think, Oblivion at least is firmly planted in the main-stream of gaming and it will only get bigger from here on out, and any TES sequel will also bring with it the players who 'discovered' Bethesda with FO3.

HOWEVER: Being a movie-person I am firm in the idea that making a TES movie would be similar to making a Dungeons and Dragons movie (anyone catch that amazing piece of cinematic history? <_< ). The problem, narrative wise, is the main character in the game is you, and the games take hundreds of hours to fully complete and explore. So in order to compensate for that they will have to make it about a group of characters who sort of fall into vaguely the most popular choices for players in the game, and then create some generic problem they have to solve. That or they'd have to have the whole film be from the main character's POV. So what I'm saying is it would be a ridiculous fiasco and terrible and simply wouldn't work. In fact, any game where the main character is customizable, ESPECIALLY in name, destroys the ability to create a cohesive narrative that will appease fans and draw in newcomers. Why name? Because you need a hero (Shepherd, Link, Lara Croft, Sam Fisher), and my hero's name is always Reymas the Ashborne. I bet you that isn't anyone else's, is it? So you hear about the TES movie being about the Dunmer orphan Reymas of Ashborne, who was the only survivor of a shipwreck on a remote island as a newborn (literally born during the storm that crashed the ship) and raised by an imperial-separated tribe of sea elves who are eventually massacred by what seems to be some warlock and his band of pirates who show up looking for Reymas as he is the last line of some crazy lineage, he manages to steal a lifeboat and miraculously makes it to Cyrodiil where he is mistaken for another prisoner and thrown in the prison where he wakes up to meet the emporer barging into his cell etc etc etc...that isn't how you imagined it, is it? So you're gonna be disappointed. Hence, no TES movie...ever.

How popular is Oblivion? Well, I work on a small crew where four people play Oblivion. 2 on PC, 2 on 360.

And it's no coincidence that we all tend to prefer the same guilds, even if we all play differently.

For example, I only steal books, Nirnroot, and items I need for Guild advancement. Alchemy equipment has a decent ratio of weight/gold to fulfill my theft necessities with a minimum of effort. On the other hand, the other resident weirdo is a klepto. Sort of like in real life, except he gives that stuff back after he's had fun laughing at the owner who doesn't notice something vanished. The guy who follows NASCAR is probably less of a white knight than I am, based on his constant assertions that I am evil, have horns, and otherwise exist purely to inflict misery on all who cross paths with me. And the other guy... is lost and stopped playing.

Other than that, "Goofy"'s husband plays at work. Outside of work, my neighbor and my cousin play.

Very true and nice to meet you! :foodndrink:

I think you'd have to ask a lot of different women to find who enjoys what and how many mention the same things.

I'm a bit of a nature freak/tomboy. Not into super girly stuff and definately both right and left brained in what I would get out of a game.

I kind of meant games in general, but thanks for the answer. :]

I have one friend, who got me into morrowind that enjoys TES games. Every single other person i know that games, whether frequently or infrequently, do not get into TES games. Even the ones that are avid gamers recognize TES games as 'probably really cool' or 'yea, i've heard those games are crazy or awesome,' but they simply do not show enough interest in spending the time it takes to get swept away in a TES game. Tis a real shame if you ask me.

But this is what one should expect, no? In my opinion, most people are mentally lazy, don't care about back stories, lore, don't care to read anything, have never posted or read on a forum, etc. Most people don't really care for substance. And subsequently, a TES game is far beyond the pale of such people's level of interest. As long as there are enough people to justify a continued series of TES games, then I could really give a damn if other people get into it or not.

However, I find it annoying that I get ribbed of for intimately enjoying such games. Ex. I once ran into a guy who just started playing a TES game at a casual party and we ended up sitting in the corner talking about the game the entire time. When others realized what we were talking about, we didn't hear the end of it. Personally, I think that people, who can't at least appreciate the depth, detail, and enjoyment that comes from playing a TES games are f uckin twits.

I had never even heard of TES (or at least never heard anything memorable) until I spotted an old, used copy of Morrowind in one of the game stores. It came down to an "eenie-meenie-minie-moe" kind of choice between that and some other game, and I accidentally picked the "right" one. Oblivion was released within a year, and rapidly gained at least moderate popularity, on par with some of the "big" titles, but definitely no bigger. FO3 drew from both the TES and FO fan group, and did pretty well. Not amazingly, though.

A movie would probably fail out of sheer apathy and lack of recognition by 98% of the potential viewers: "TES? Isn't that some sort of international spy organization? Oh, SCROLLS, that means it's like Harry Potter!"

:rofl:

I have met one person who's played oblivion and thats it, most people I have met only play C.O.D. or gears of war. I once told a friend about morrowind and to try it out and it did not work out.

The sad thing is that many people likes games that insult their intelligence by holding your hand with a mediocre plot that is more then likely about guns and violence. Granted Bethesda may not be the most well known they are however successful by making a great deal of money and having such a dedicated fanbase and therefore shouldn't matter if they are not the most popular; only that they make quality games.

This is very true. It is not likely to believe that Morrowind and Oblivion, or in future TES V will be so popular like some simple minded shooting games for example. There are people who don't want to think much when they start playing some game, and there are people who like games that are challenge to them because of its complicity and need a certain amount of reasoning, following the story, solving the misteries and clues, and to some extent require patience. Now this is what TES offers. Lets face it, TES is not for everyones taste, and to my opinion it is better this way. When I want to play something for just sake of playing I play Battlefield or GRAW, and when I wantsomething more from a game, I play TES.

Someone mentioned movies, that would be a bad idea, I recently saw Doom movie, and must say that it is extremely poor adaptation of the game, although the game is almost 20 years old.

I found that awfully appealing.
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Oblivion did wonders to the series, which pisses me off because it took away so much that was great about TES and will likely dumb down TES5 to a hack-and-slash shooter, depending on what class you choose.

Morrowind got more popular after Oblivion, because so many newcomers to the series wanted to see what all the older fans loved about Morrowind, with mixed results.

The series is popular enough. It's not 100% broken through, but I'm sure when TES5 is announced, it will be one of the most popular games of the year, 2010 or 2011, whenever it's released.

I'm pretty sure I've only met 2 people who knows of the TES series.

Fallout is much more popular than TES, that's for sure. Back in high school everybody knew about Fallout 3, but I never heard anyone talk about TES except one or two of my friends. But I think Fallout 3 helped increase the popularity of TES somewhat because there were probably a lot of people who played FO3 who later wanted to try out Bethesda's other games, thus being introduced to the TES series.

Quite a few of my friends have at least played an elderscrolls game even if they are hardened COD [censored]. But generally we just play what our firends say they enjoyed.

I know only few people who played ES games. My younger sister played Morrowind 5 years ago (she was at age of 11 !), my older sister liked Oblivion, and her boyfriend played Ob a bit too. All on PC, because consoles here are not as popular as they are in other countries. Form my observations most people here play on PC.

I happen to be one of those people..

As am I :foodndrink:

in my town only a few friends know about tes series.
but no one plays fallout cuz tes series r better