Mod troubleshooting -speed issue : III

» Fri May 28, 2010 1:57 pm

My speed is zero. I noticed this one recently, and have no idea what can cause that.

I also want to ask if I can check my save game externally for speed, because I don't know if it is in the save or caused by a new mod I installed. Maybe I can set it back via console and it won't happen again.

My mods:

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GameFile0=abotWaterLife.esmGameFile1=Assassins Armory.esmGameFile2=Bloodmoon.esmGameFile3=GDR_MasterFile.esmGameFile4=MCA.esmGameFile5=Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmGameFile6=Morrowind.esmGameFile7=Texture Fix 1.8.esmGameFile8=Tribunal.esmGameFile9=TR_Data.esmGameFile10=TR_Map1.esmGameFile11=TR_Map2.esmGameFile12=abotGuars.espGameFile13=abotWaterLifeTRaddon.espGameFile14=abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.espGameFile15=Animated Morrowind 1.0.espGameFile16=AreaEffectArrows.espGameFile17=Assassins Armory - Arrows.espGameFile18=Assassins Armory - Unofficial Patch 7.7.espGameFile19=Balance - Character.espGameFile20=Balance - game settings.espGameFile21=Balance - items.espGameFile22=Balance - Magic Effects.espGameFile23=Balance - NPC Spellcasting.espGameFile24=Balance - spells.espGameFile25=Better Bodies.espGameFile26=Better Clothes_v1.1.espGameFile27=BetterMusicSystem_v1.1.1.espGameFile28=BMS_UPDATE_v1.5.espGameFile29=Changing Faces Replacer.espGameFile30=Clean Weapon Sheaths Ultimate.espGameFile31=Complete Armor Joints.espGameFile32=ComprehensiveChargen.espGameFile33=correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.espGameFile34=Creatures.espGameFile35=c_frozenstar_v3_mw.espGameFile36=DB_Attack_Mod3.espGameFile37=Dirnae's Slower Walk.ESPGameFile38=DN-GDRv1_NOM.espGameFile39=DN_1st_Person_Armor.espGameFile40=DN_1st_Person_bodies.espGameFile41=DN_Adamantium.espGameFile42=DN_IceBlade.espGameFile43=DN_Umbra.espGameFile44=Dwemer Sky Glider.espGameFile45=farrp_Quivers-FletchingKit_V2-5.espGameFile46=farrp_WeaponCompilationMod_V2.espGameFile47=Fireflies.espGameFile48=Gameplay - Dialogue.espGameFile49=Gameplay - Faction.espGameFile50=Healers.espGameFile51=Hold it - MCA addon.espGameFile52=Hold it - NOM addon.espGameFile53=Hold it - SF npc addon.espGameFile54=Hold it replacer.espGameFile55=kristinhead.espGameFile56=KS_Ren's_Oblivion_Hair_for_Morrowind_1.0.espGameFile57=k_weather.espGameFile58=Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.espGameFile59=Mashed Lists.espGameFile60=MCA - Guards Patch.espGameFile61=MCA - More Enemies.espGameFile62=MCA - NOM Patch.espGameFile63=MDP Compilation.ESPGameFile64=Meteor.espGameFile65=MixedSignposts.espGameFile66=New Argonian Bodies - Mature.espGameFile67=New Khajiit Bodies - Mature.espGameFile68=nocliffraceraddon.ESPGameFile69=NOM 2.13.espGameFile70=Nymeria's Monthly Respawn.espGameFile71=Particle Arrows.espGameFile72=South Wall.ESPGameFile73=Starfires NPC Additions ver-1.11.espGameFile74=SW_MCA5.2_Patch.espGameFile75=Texture Fix -TR -1.0.espGameFile76=The Sable Dragon 1.5.espGameFile77=TheForgottenShields - Artifacts_VN.espGameFile78=TLM - Ambient Light + Fog Update.espGameFile79=TLM - External Lights Ownership.espGameFile80=TLM - Light Sources (Clearer Lighting).espGameFile81=TLM - Light Sources (Lanterns).espGameFile82=TLM - Light Sources (Natural Water).espGameFile83=TLM - NPC Light Sources.espGameFile84=TravelingMerchants_v2.2.espGameFile85=Vality's Balmora Addon.espGameFile86=Vality's Bitter Coast Addon.espGameFile87=Vurt's AI Trees Replacer.ESPGameFile88=Vurt's Ashlands Overhaul.ESPGameFile89=Vurt's Leafy West Gash.ESPGameFile90=Waterfall v1.0.espGameFile91=Windmill.espGameFile92=Windows Glow.espGameFile93=zooming bows (v2).espGameFile94=fargothringradiant.ESP

~~Also isn't it weird that morrowind.esm is sixth?~~ :blink: Oh, it is alphabetically sorted.

Wouldn't it be accurate with loading order?

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_001_ Morrowind.esm_002_ Tribunal.esm_003_ Bloodmoon.esm_004_ Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm_005_ TR_Data.esm_006_ TR_Map1.esm_007_ TR_Map2.esm_008_ GDR_MasterFile.esm_009_ Texture Fix 1.8.esm_010_ MCA.esm_011_ abotWaterLife.esm_012_ Assassins Armory.esm_013_ Balance - NPC Spellcasting.esp_014_ Balance - game settings.esp_015_ Gameplay - Faction.esp_016_ Gameplay - Dialogue.esp_017_ Balance - Magic Effects.esp_018_ Balance - spells.esp_019_ Balance - Character.esp_020_ Balance - items.esp_021_ AreaEffectArrows.esp_022_ DB_Attack_Mod3.esp_023_ Clean Weapon Sheaths Ultimate.esp_024_ Hold it replacer.esp_025_ farrp_WeaponCompilationMod_V2.esp_026_ Hold it - MCA addon.esp_027_ Assassins Armory - Arrows.esp_028_ Waterfall v1.0.esp_029_ TravelingMerchants_v2.2.esp_030_ Better Bodies.esp_031_ abotGuars.esp_032_ abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp_033_ Fireflies.esp_034_ Assassins Armory - Unofficial Patch 7.7.esp_035_ Meteor.esp_036_ farrp_Quivers-FletchingKit_V2-5.esp_037_ Particle Arrows.esp_038_ Better Clothes_v1.1.esp_039_ KS_Ren's_Oblivion_Hair_for_Morrowind_1.0.esp_040_ k_weather.esp_041_ MCA - Guards Patch.esp_042_ abotWaterLifeTRaddon.esp_043_ MCA - More Enemies.esp_044_ zooming bows (v2).esp_045_ Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp_046_ DN_Umbra.esp_047_ Nymeria's Monthly Respawn.esp_048_ MixedSignposts.esp_049_ Vality's Bitter Coast Addon.esp_050_ The Sable Dragon 1.5.esp_051_ NOM 2.13.esp_052_ Changing Faces Replacer.esp_053_ Healers.esp_054_ DN-GDRv1_NOM.esp_055_ Vality's Balmora Addon.esp_056_ Complete Armor Joints.esp_057_ DN_Adamantium.esp_058_ DN_IceBlade.esp_059_ Texture Fix -TR -1.0.esp_060_ Starfires NPC Additions ver-1.11.esp_061_ Hold it - SF npc addon.esp_062_ Dwemer Sky Glider.esp_063_ Windmill.esp_064_ BetterMusicSystem_v1.1.1.esp_065_ ComprehensiveChargen.esp_066_ South Wall.ESP_067_ Creatures.esp_068_ Vurt's Ashlands Overhaul.ESP_069_ Vurt's Leafy West Gash.ESP_070_ SW_MCA5.2_Patch.esp_071_ BMS_UPDATE_v1.5.esp_072_ correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp_073_ DN_1st_Person_bodies.esp_074_ DN_1st_Person_Armor.esp_075_ New Argonian Bodies - Mature.esp_076_ New Khajiit Bodies - Mature.esp_077_ TheForgottenShields - Artifacts_VN.esp_078_ Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp_079_ MDP Compilation.ESP_080_ nocliffraceraddon.ESP_081_ c_frozenstar_v3_mw.esp_082_ kristinhead.esp_083_ Dirnae's Slower Walk.ESP_084_ Windows Glow.esp_085_ MCA - NOM Patch.esp_086_ Vurt's AI Trees Replacer.ESP_087_ Hold it - NOM addon.esp_088_ TLM - Light Sources (Natural Water).esp_089_ TLM - Ambient Light + Fog Update.esp_090_ TLM - NPC Light Sources.esp_091_ TLM - External Lights Ownership.esp_092_ TLM - Light Sources (Lanterns).esp_093_ TLM - Light Sources (Clearer Lighting).esp_094_ Mashed Lists.esp_095_ fargothringradiant.ESP

here is my real load order, I messed with it a little. I had to change changing faces replacers and TLM light mods order to fix conflicts MLOX doesn't cover.

» Fri May 28, 2010 11:06 am

I also want to ask if I can check my save game externally for speed, because I don't know if it is in the save or caused by a new mod I installed. Maybe I can set it back via console and it won't happen again.

~~Also isn't it weird that morrowind.esm is sixth?~~ :blink: Oh, it is alphabetically sorted.

Wouldn't it be accurate with loading order?

If you want to check your savegame, you might be able to use Enchanted Editor, but I use http://code.google.com/p/mlox/wiki/Tes3cmd. I believe the record you want to check is type NPC_ and the Identifier (NAME) would be "player". Look for the attribute field called Speed (or in tes3cmd "Spd") in the subrecord "NPDT".

The gamefiles section of the .ini is sorted alphabetically, that's just how Bethesda chose to do it. For sorting in load order, what matters is the actual modification date of each plugin, which could be changed outside of Morrowind, so it makes sense not to save the actual load order.

» Fri May 28, 2010 7:58 am

OK. A little update. On the issue. I finally found some time to look to the issue. I used console to set my speed to 50 as I recreated my character copying my other stats.

Well, one save later here I am and my speed got zeroed again. On a side note my character is level 1.

Mod list is in first post. Wakim's mods are suspicious.