Talos the 9th Divine and pretty much the Divine that The Blades worship. I think his involvement in Skyrim is going to be important but I could be completely wrong. Do you want Talos to have a big impact in Skyrim or do you want him to be just another one of the Divines like in Oblivion.

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That is, not integral to the MQ, but hopefully they bring back the imperial cult - and he plays a part there.

I'd like a Nordic version of the Imperial Cult, with Talos featured prominently.

Talos was Dragonborn, wasn't he?

Talos, in terms of godhood, is nothing more than a replacement of Cyrodiil's highly watered down version of Shor, Shezarr. And no, Talos is not dragonborn, that was Tiber Septim. If anything, it'll likely be an aspect of Shor who appears. Perhaps, the PC, or not.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I still differentiate the two.

Well, in terms of religion, seeing as Akatosh is now returning to devour the mortal plane of existence, I think we can safely say the Nords were right :biggrin:

Stupid mer, always getting everything wrong.

I was under the impression that Talos = Tiber Septim. I believe he achieved some level of godhood at his death. It's a similar situation to Roman leaders, which the empire is based off of, that were deified upon death and worshiped as pseudo-deities, like Augustus and Julius Caesar. In fact, the real world term for this is an Imperial Cult, the same term being applied to the religion of the Imperials in Elder Scrolls. Arkay, likewise, is said to have once been mortal, but was deified when he discovered the secrets of life and death. But the Monomyth contradicts that, so who knows? I have no idea if Tiber Septim is an actual divine entity or just an overglorified conqueror, but he has a place in both Cyrodillic and Nordic faith as Talos and Ysmir, respectively. I wouldn't call Talos/Ysmir a replacement for Shezarr/Shor, but Shezarr was filtered out of Imperial society due to racial tolerance for their new Elven citizens and a conflict of interest with the reverence of Akatosh, a god that dislikes Lorkhan.

I'm not very familiar with the Nord gods though, but it seems like they have the same number as the Imperials, 9, but they lack Arkay and have Shor. At least I think they lack Arkay. I didn't see him listed anywhere. Arkay, though, seems like more of a replacement to
Shor than anything else. Shor is the god of life, Arkay is the god of life and death. They serve similar purposes on appearance, despite the lore behind them being less black and white.

Well mer aren't wrong they just see it differently. For example if you like having the knowledge of good & evil and idenity, would you not praise the devil for offering Eve the apple. Mer want to be gods and hate mortality so they see dedra and Akotosh as good. Nords love Nirn and there lives here so they see Shor as good and Alduin as something to watch out for.

On the subject of Talos. Talos has many aspects; king, warrior, sorcerer. Dragonborn is a King (leader of man[Probably has to be Man] ), the warrior (the one who fights the battles[has no certain race, probably the MC]), the sorcerer (a great power[not necessarily a person could be like Zurin or could be like Numidium]). My theory.

Talos served as a replacement for Shezarr, the forgotten god in the Cyrodiilic pantheon, but you are right in that he is known as Ysmir to the nords, and they probably would honor Talos as Ysmir. But, Talos is the replacement of Shezarr to the religion of the nine, as Tiber Septim did not want to make the mistakes that were done in the past of trying to bring back Shezarr into the pantheon (or something like that). For me, there's Tiber Septim, the Dragonborn and the 3rd emperor of Cyrodiil, who unified Tamriel. Then there's Talos, Tiber Septim ascended after mantling the rebel-king battle that has been waged since the creation of Mundus, and temporary replacement of Shezarr to the Cyrodiils.


Arkay is Orkey to the nords. It's Mauloch who is Malacath (in case others try to say otherwise). Shor is known as the god of the underworld, only because he was sent there (like Hades. He's the god of the underworld, but doesn't take people's lives or determine how long they live; he kinda just lives there)

Incase any who are interested in this discussion missed this...

The Imperial Cult is a missionary organization that pretty much only exists in Vvardenfell. It won't appear anywhere else in Tamriel except Solstheim.