I have read that more than a few people are having problems with the pipboy edition, and having encountered no end myself, I thought i would do a little research. It has been enlightening.

Most people are putting the blame in the wrong place.

Firstly, Bethesda vastly underestimated how popular it would be. They did no research, just decided on an arbitary number for release. The original release number has been expanded, but only by a nominal amount, as the November date precludes time to manufacture and distribute.

Neither Bethesda nor any 'in country' resellers put in place any limits on the numbers of units people could order. This meant that when the initial release went up, many people ordered multiple copies. I was told by an employee of bethesda that many individuals had ordered dozens of copies. All of these of course, just end up on Ebay at two or three times the release price, and us the fans, get royally sc*****'d. Unfortunately many will buy from ebay and make sure that these opportunistic snakes continue to ruin limited releases for evermore.

Regarding Game UK, and cancelled orders, they are for a number of reasons. Non UK residents have had their orders cancelled as Bethesda reseller agreements prevent them selling across territories. While this should have been clear at the time of order, they are now rectifying their error. They are also now reviewing multi orders and cancelling ones that they deem are for resale, although they wont say what the parameters are. Regaining a little face...maybe.

So in short, Bethesda didnt plan numbers, didnt plan or limit the release, and continue to show contempt for their fans by not really explaining to us all what is really going on.

Go Bethesda! great job!

DONT BUY THIS FROM EBAY!

if we dont buy, the pre orders will get cancelled and resold through legitimate channels, and maybe just maybe Bethesda and others will think about the fans next time instead of just the bottom line!

Idk where you did your research. More places had a limit of 1 per customer than didn't from everything I've seen and heard. (Including Gamestop, where I got mine.)

Speaking of blame in the wrong places..

It's also not up to Bethesda, whether or not a company/store selling their product limits it to 1 per customer. That's the store's end.

Was their research you mention they lacked supposed to allow them to supply every single person who wants one with one? If no, then I think they did alright.

Bethesda could have done all the research in the world to try and gauge how popular the Pip-boy edition would be, that wouldn't fix anything. Main reason being... It's supposed to be one of those sought after very limited collector's edition pieces. In a group of 10,000, making 10,000 because your research tells you all 10,000 people will want one doesn't make it limited, or even a collector's item.

I feel like with all the re-stocks they did, they were actually thinking of the fans. If you didn't/couldn't secure one by then, then you're just one of the ones that missed out. Hardly a victim of shady corporate dealings.

It would make sense that there would be limited amount of the Pip-Boy edition. They most likely wanted it to be seen as a collector's item so that the elite few who did pre-order it super early were given something special. However, I think they have just recently decided to supply as many as it takes for fans to be satisfied with their product so people won't get ticked off with them. If we can take anything away from this, it's that Bethesda doesn't have to release anymore Pip-Boy editions, but is doing so to make their fanbase happy.

If they made a lot more then it wouldn't be a limited edition. they can't control how the stores choose to sell. some places like amazon and best buy restocked them a few times. Pre order when they become available or you will miss out. Really in my opinion you can't blame anyone but yourself if you decide to wait until they were sold out, and announced no more would be made.

Or! Or. I could continue to not really give a [censored] like the vast majority of people who will eventually buy FO4. But good luck organizing your revolution.

Actually bethesda can put limits on resellers, thats the power of producing a popular game that everyone wants.

The 1 limit per customer was only introduced after the first batch sold out due to multi purchasers.

Bethesda could have announced, taken interest deposits, and then produced accordingly.

I didnt miss out, I got one in the UK (where i live) by complete luck in the one and only restock. I just dont like it when big companies act like this. and who mentioned shady dealings? I just mentioned incompetence.

Sorry to disappoint you Bethesda really devoted fan.

Kisses X

Most dont give a ****** and thats why big companies will just ignore whats best and do whats easy. meh.

Limited edition is relative to the customer base. this was a b4lls up, plain and simple.

Of course they can control how stores sell, my god how naive can people be?

Pre order here in the UK was available for under an hour, restock about the same. I understand is was similarly bad over there. Badly researched, badly organised and played straight into the hands of the ebay trolls.

...because most people are mature people who doesn′t make a huge fuzz over a hunk of plastic, a luxury product you don′t need for your daily life.

Ohh that's not true, people go crazy (corybantic even) over iphones and ipads etc.Have you seen the videos of people trying to buy the nike Jordan shoes (no idea what they are actually called, I'm not American)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czyOt0Bj9yY- Riots over shoes...

Usually, when one does "research," one has sources that support their claims. I'm seeing an awful lot of claims, but no actual sources to back any of them up.

If you wanted to opine on the situation, that's fine, but if you're trying to come off as more informed and credible because you've done your research, you really should cite your sources.

Only reason i got one is to put it on a couple times then put it on the fallout shelf next to my bobble head, lunchbox, and nv CE . but hey its not for everyone. Im tired of people whining about not getting one though.

All the people who slammed Bethesda/retailers for not putting a limit of one per customer on this, let me ask you this.

What's to stop someone ordering/buying from multiple retailers? How can they possibly stop some one from buying one from Gamestop, One from Target, one from Amazon etc?

They can't

In fact, is there any evidence that those that bought multiple copies for resell bought from the same place.

Just to point out too, technically ebay can (And by their T&C's should) shut down those sales since those people are taking money for things they don't actually have at this time. Heck, how many of those selling on ebay have even managed to get one to actually resell? Some could be scammers rather than scalpers.

corybantic?

Bethesda game studios are just the developers, they don't make decisions relating to publishing. Zenimax does, they are the publisher and parent company. Also the foundation of your assertion, of what isn't entirely coherent, is based on your opinion that total stock for the PBE was random. Which unless you have a source that you can cite, is just random guessing.

Wild;frenzied.

And, what's more, if people are really desperate they can just find one of the 3D printer plans that are out there (seriously, it's a very obvious google search, several online articles about them), find a friend with a 3D printer or a company that will do one-off orders for a reasonable price, some DIY to paint and assemble it, then stick their smartphone in and done. More effort, some learning and trial and error, but probably cheaper.

To be clear, these 3D printer plans were available long before FO4 was announced. They aren't licensed by Bethesda, and it's conceivable Bethesda might start issuing take-down orders to sites hosting them. But Bethesda haven't done so before, and as Bethesda are confirmed by Pete Hines not to be selling any more FO4 special editions, there's no competition.

If some idiot decided to start making and selling these unlicensed designs, I suspect Bethesda would start taking action.

The farce is even more hideous in countries where no store has no nothing.

Bethesda controls how many the stores will get. The stores control how there sold. Pete Hines said this "each store is being given there final allotment. how and when they make them available is up to them. But no more are being made."

The advice about not buying from ebay is sound.

Those 'sellers' don't have the Pip Boys either.

On November 11th there will be plenty of Pip Boys to be had

for those who really want one,

at a much lower price than they are on offer for now.

This seems much like a petition against ebay and we don't allow any petitions what so ever about anything on this forum. If you have a problem with things happening on Ebay, they would be the ones to appeal to. As for the limited supply of pipboy, we have open threads about that.

Bethesda is aware of the situation, and so is everyone on the forum. But spamming your spam-mongering message is getting old.