-They did reference the MWBoS in-game, and Lyons wouldn't have known that the MWBoS had gone rogue unless they made contact with them. As of the end of Tactics, the MwBoS had never made contact with the WCBoS after their crash. Someone, aka Lyons, would have had to go make contact with them to know they had gone rogue, and had not just been unable to make contact for whatever reason.

-Same way the wasteland survival guide made to Vegas in large quantities in only 4 years.... people brought the information with them as they walked across the nation.

-Possibly, but D.C. being the nation's capitol, and having so many military instillations in one spot, makes collecting tech far easier then trying to hunt down all the remote military bases of the deserts of western America, since its all jam packed into one small area.

The mutants are in D.C. proper looking for more FEV, not because there were a lot of people there.

They mention so themselves in dialog, and Reilly suggests at it as well.

Well, by 2277, Vault 87 is running out of FEV, and super mutant dialogue suggests that part of the reason they're in the DC ruins is looking for more of it. They could have started branching out of the area as well to try and find it in other locations.

I'm hoping that's the case. 3+ Vaults all doing the same experiment of dipping people into FEV sounds uncreative to me.

Yeah they do, it was just a fan theory on my part anyway. The settlements can't represent the majority of the people in the wasteland can they?

Indeed. This was a problem in the Fallout Bible and the old Fallout's as-well. All mutations were linked to air-borne FEV, so dull and convenient. Just like how they also made Cazadores a product of Big Mt. Can't some mutants just be frame 50's radiation anymore like it was supposed to be? FEV is really dumb and has produced, mostly, stupid things and doesn't need to be shoe-horned everywhere.

Keep in mind, the Brotherhood as an organization knows about Richard Grey and the power of FEV. Super Mutants are the byproduct of Grey's "Unity".

Finding other Super Mutants popping up at the other end of the country would need looking into...if for no other reason then to validate that Grey was actually dead. (All they had for that assurance was the testimony of one very junior, outsider Initiate)

The D.C. wasteland's real world size is an area smaller then that of L.A. So yes, those settlements ARE the majority population of the wasteland, and Rivet city is outright stated to be the largest settlement in the region. We are simply viewing a region smaller then Fo1's Boneyard.

Didn't Avellone recant the "mutant animals are FEV based" thing in the later bibles?

The BoS has long been familiar with Arthurian lore.

If any thing that name makes it more likely it is WCBos or MWBoS.

Per Wiki, "Preiddeu Annwfn or Preiddeu Annwn (English: The Spoils of Annwfn) is a cryptic poem of sixty lines found in Middle Welsh in the Book of Taliesin. The text recounts an expedition with King Arthur to Annwfn or Annwn, probably a British otherworld. Two works in particular, the tale of Bran the Blessed in the Second Branch of the Mabinogi and a tale included in Culhwch and Olwen in which Arthur's retinue sail to Ireland aboard Prydwen (the ship used in Preiddeu) to obtain the Cauldron of Diwrnach, are frequently cited as narratives resembling that of the present poem."

So a ship Bran and King Arthur used on an expedition to a far way place.

Does that sound like a name the WCBoS might use on an airship sent east on a last ditch gamble or something Lyons' CWBoS used to visit someplace practically next door like Boston?

I'd expect Lyons' CWBoS to name an airship some thing like Columbia, Spirit of DC, or even Lone Wanderer, rather than Prydwen.

I thinking your giving Bethesda far too much credit. Far more likely that it's just a ship Arthur sailed on and it's what Maxson would sail.

And no it doesn't, I don't see why the WCBoS would dredge up ancient Celtic lore to name an airship. However if I was a Bethesda writer looking to deepen the thematic connexion between their BoS which made overt usage of Arthurian Lore in their game and would want to continue doing so.

Also, Americans please, 450 miles approx is not "next door" - especially when these people have walked everywhere there entire lives until very recently with the acquisition of Vertibirds. Hell it's greater than the distance between Great Britain and Ireland which Arthur sailed! Possibly more than twice over.

Just want to point out that apparently Lyons' journey to DC only took a year to complete on foot.

It wouldn't have taken even a year honestly.

The distance can be walked in like 2.5 months, even if one gets 8 hours of sleep every day.

Probably more due to their journey taking them to places like the Pitt and their attempts to find the MWBoS, rather than being a straight shot to DC. The fighting and having children in tow probably slowed them down as well.

Yeah, that's a long time and it was a long time ago. The younger generations who will be doing the fighting didn't walk that distance.

Either way, I don't think it's anything other than Lyon's BoS based on both in and out of game evidence.

The Brotherhood Prydwen is not powered by sail or oar.

When you are dealing with a country that is 3000 miles between the East Coast and the West Coast, Boston being only 450 miles away from DC is not that far.

More importantly both cities are accessible by sea which totally changes the dynamics.

New England and the East Coast have a long sailing tradition.

You can move very large cargo relatively quickly by ship.

Clipper Sailing ships (an extreme example) had peak average speeds over 16 knots (30 km/hr)

Even given the extra distance to go by sea it would still be around 800 or 900 km and a sailing ship could make it in two or three days with good winds (a week a most).

A Cargo Container Ship's normal speed is 20-25 knots (37.0 - 46.3 km/hr).

Such a ship would make it from DC to Boston in under 24 hours.

BTW, I'm from the USA West so we scoff at distances even more than someone from the East or West Coast.

It is over 600 miles from Dallas to El Paso and you don't even leave the state of Texas.

I can't remember where I heard it said but it goes like "To a Briton, 100 miles away is far away and to an American 100 years is a long-time ago."

But anyway, exactly, you might think that but I don't think that post-war wastelanders would scoff at distances so much because they mostly have to walk everywhere and it's entirely hostile, dangerous and unknown territory.

Sure, Lyon's BoS did migrate to the East Coast from the other end of the country. But they only did that once and a long time ago, certainly not the present generation of fighters for the Brotherhood. I wouldn't take a 450 mile journey through unknown wastelanders too lightly is all I'm saying. Helps to have an armoured airship bristling with weapons and a Vertibird escort.

I don't think it's farfetched for them to call their airship the Prydwen and I don't think it likely that any of the other Brotherhood factions would.

An Osprey has a range of over 1000 miles and could travel from DC to Boston and make it back with no refueling.

I'll assume a Vertibird has the same range or close to it.

Why build an airship when you can fly there already using a Vertibird.

The Hindenburg could carry 10,000 kg of cargo (mostly luggage and mail) and 90 passengers and crew.

A small cargo ship could carry ten times that.

Just want to add that it's still believable considering the focus (by the US) on creating superhuman soldiers before the great war. China developed working stealth technology while the US developed (and failed) super soldier technology. It makes sense to have multiple facilities working on it.

if lyon's brotherhood (or any brotherhood for that matter) is in fallout 4 than I'm going to wipe them out like I did in broken steel.

your in luck its already confirmed that they in the game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL_7mdEIp3s

no, the Bos IS confirmed, Lyon's BoS is not. We have no idea which BoS is in the game.

i wasn't being specific i was merely confriming that BOS are in the game in what capacities i have zero idea

if came across that way then im sorry.