So I've just attempted to install MMM for OOO (was told previously my load order was bad because I was using the wrong MMM), and not only am I missing some meshes now, I also get frequent CTD's (going into an interior cell, leveling up etc.) Any help from you gurus would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.





? 00 Oblivion.esm

? 01 ScreenEffects.esm

? 02 You Are Here.esm

? 03 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.7]

? 04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]

? 05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]

? 06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm

? 07 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]

? 08 Better Cities Resources.esm

? 09 BetterMusicSystem.esm

? 0A HorseCombatMaster.esm

? 0B Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.4]

? 0C DLCShiveringIsles.esp

? 0D Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]

? 0E Better Cities .esp

? 0F LoadingScreens.esp

? 10 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.7]

? 11 All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.7]

? 12 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.7]

? 13 All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version 0.9.6]

? 14 AmbientTownSounds.esp

? 15 AmbientDungeons.esp [Version 1.2]

? 16 AliveWaters.esp

? 17 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

? 18 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

? 19 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

? ? ? Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

? 1A ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

? 1B ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp

? 1C personality_idles4.esp

? 1D Living Economy - Items.esp

? 1E Crowded Cities 15.esp

? 1F Crowded Roads Revisited.esp [Version 1.1]

? 20 ClassyClothingCompendium.esp

? 21 DC-Armor-Pack.esp

? 22 Mage Equipment.esp

? 23 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]

? 24 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]

? 25 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]

? ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]

? 26 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

? 27 Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

? 28 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]

? 29 OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]

? 2A ArmamentariumLL.esp [Version 1.35]

? 2B ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35]

? 2C ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp [Version 1.35]

? 2D ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]

? ++ ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp [Version 1.35]

? 2E Mart's Monster Mod.esp

? 2F Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp

? 30 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp

? 31 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp

? 32 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

? 33 Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

? 34 Mart's Monster Mod - Increased Spawn Rates.esp

? 35 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp

? 36 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

? 37 Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO+FCOM.esp

? 38 ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]

? 39 ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]

? 3A Cats & Rats for MMM.esp

? 3B OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]

? 3C MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]

? 3D 00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp

? ++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]

? 3E GlenvarCastle.esp

? 3F Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp

? 40 24HrArenaAliveV2.esp

? 41 TOTF.esp

? 42 Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp

? 43 ElsweyrAnequina.esp

? 44 ElsweyrAnequinaNoSpiders.esp

? 45 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.3]

? 46 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.1]

? 47 xulTheHeath.esp

? 48 XulEntiusGorge.esp

? 49 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]

? 4A Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp

? 4B xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2]

? 4C xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]

? 4D xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.2]

? 4E xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]

? 4F xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3]

? 50 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.1]

? 51 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]

? 52 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.1]

? 53 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.2]

? 54 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]

? 55 xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp [Version 1.3.2]

? 56 xulPantherRiver.esp

? 57 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.1]

? 58 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2]

? 59 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.3]

? 5A xulBlackwoodForest.esp

? 5B xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0]

? 5C TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

? 5D Castle_Seaview.esp

? 5E CastleSeaview+LostCoast Patch.esp [Version 1.0]

? 5F RegionReviveLakeRumare-ImperialIsle patch.esp [Version 1.3.2]

? 60 JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp

? 61 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

? 62 more books teach.esp

? 63 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]

? 64 ReneersTrainingMod.esp

? 65 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]

? 66 SetsunaDummyTraining.esp

? ++ SigilStonesUnlevelled.esp

? ++ SigilStonesUnlevelled - Adjusted.esp

? 67 300 Feudal Empire.esp

? 68 Alternate Start Revamped.esp

? 69 MidasSpells.esp

? 6A Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

? 6B DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

? ? ? Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53]

? ? ? Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53]

? 6C Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp

? 6D Better Cities Full.esp

? 6E BCBravilFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp

? 6F Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp

? 70 BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp

? 71 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp

? 72 Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp

? 73 BCCheydinhalFULL-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

? 74 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp

? 75 Better Imperial City.esp

? 76 Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

? 77 Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp

? 78 Get Wet Dark.esp

? 79 ScreenControls.esp

? 7A Visual Enchantments v1.0.esp

? 7B Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01]

? ? ? All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp

? 7C Bashed Patch, 0.esp

? 7D FormID Finder4.esp

? 7E Streamline 3.1.esp

? 7F Visual Enchantments v0.9.esp

My guess? They're from OOO, because you're using the installer version of 1.33. It's a common problem. The easy way to fix it is to install it into a separate folder (not the Data folder), then copy the files over. You can also use FormID Finder to figure out where the missing meshes belong.

Also: You need both MMM esms, but only MMM for OOO.esp - not MMM.esp.

Thanks for the info. I guess where I get confused is when I use FORMID finder I see where the mesh is from, but I don't know how to fix it. Any tips? Thanks a ton. I'll try copying the OOO files over. Thanks again.

Once you figure out where it's from, it's simply a matter of checking the relevant backup file (you DO have backups, right?) for any meshes that aren't in your Data folder and moving them there. If the mesh is completely missing (i.e., not in the backup either), you should PM the author and let him/her know.

Sounds easy enough. Thanks so much for the help.