Vault-Tec

Post » Thu May 26, 2011 10:38 pm

I assume this would go here, sooo I know many of the vaults were designed for experiments and such. Now I'm assuming the government in Fallout also had the belief that you could win a nuclear war or suffers acceptable losses. If this is true, then that would explain why Vault-Tec ran the experiments. Or is it possible Vault-Tec and even the government did not really believe the war would occur.
If there is no belief that the war would end in America's favor why would Vault-Tec even run the experiments?
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 11:14 pm

The world of Fallout before the bombs had widespread nuclear power technology, where it wasn't as secure as it is in reality. This meant that most nations probably had nuclear weapons as part of their normal arsenal, given that the US was highly paranoid and at war, it was probably a given that a nuclear war would happen at some point, hence the creation of Vault-tec and the vaults.

If we knew more about who launched bombs, and who instigated the war, we'd have a better idea of what the thought process behind the vaults was. For all we know, the whole apocalypse in the US could have been planned.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:20 am

I assume this would go here, sooo I know many of the vaults were designed for experiments and such. Now I'm assuming the government in Fallout also had the belief that you could win a nuclear war or suffers acceptable losses. If this is true, then that would explain why Vault-Tec ran the experiments. Or is it possible Vault-Tec and even the government did not really believe the war would occur.
If there is no belief that the war would end in America's favor why would Vault-Tec even run the experiments?

The Enclave's original exit strategy for the post apocolypse was to launch into space and find a new planet. The reason for the experiments was that Space technology wasnt much different to today: No Hyperdrive, no Jump gates, just regular sub light spaceships. Getting anywehre was going to take centuries if not milenia. As such, the Enclanve needed to know what problems might come up, and what they should do. The Experminents were run to try to ensure that the space project worked.

They didnt see any way to win.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:20 am

Then something occurred in the interm to make the Enclave lose contact with their space ship (Possible damage or a degraded orbit, it's never been stated), thus prompting their current plan of "purifying" the Continental United States (And possibly Canada as well) of mutation to start fresh.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:02 am

Sounds like your confusing Fallout with Earth 21509, the Enclave is simply the remains the of the american goverment. In Fallout 2 the Enclave was working to wipe any and all mutations, and restore america, which seems to be the case in Fallout 3 as well. Vault-Tec on the other seems to have been a powerful corporation with many goverment contracts. Their experimentation seems to have been an effort to expand weapons development. Thing is, did Vault-Tec merge with the Enclave after the war, or was Vault-tec a goverment front.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:36 am

Sounds like your confusing Fallout with Earth 21509, the Enclave is simply the remains the of the american goverment. In Fallout 2 the Enclave was working to wipe any and all mutations, and restore america, which seems to be the case in Fallout 3 as well. Vault-Tec on the other seems to have been a powerful corporation with many goverment contracts. Their experimentation seems to have been an effort to expand weapons development. Thing is, did Vault-Tec merge with the Enclave after the war, or was Vault-tec a goverment front.


I never figured that out, how is vault tech connected with the government noth before and after.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 10:43 pm

Sounds like your confusing Fallout with Earth 21509, the Enclave is simply the remains the of the american goverment. In Fallout 2 the Enclave was working to wipe any and all mutations, and restore america, which seems to be the case in Fallout 3 as well. Vault-Tec on the other seems to have been a powerful corporation with many goverment contracts. Their experimentation seems to have been an effort to expand weapons development. Thing is, did Vault-Tec merge with the Enclave after the war, or was Vault-tec a goverment front.

I think you're unfamiliar with the true history of the vaults, from the Vault

Officially, the Vaults were nuclear shelters designed to protect the American population from nuclear holocaust. However, with a population of almost 400 million by 2077, the U.S. would need nearly 400,000 Vaults the size of Vault 13, while Vault-Tec was commissioned to build only 122 such Vaults. The real reason for the existence of these Vaults was to study pre-selected segments of the population to see how they react to the stresses of isolationism and how successfully they re-colonize Earth after the Vault opens.

The shadow government, the Enclave, responsible for the experiment, have considered themselves prime candidates for recolonizing the world after a nuclear holocaust and to this end commissioned the construction of their own shelters, isolated from the Vault network. The purpose of the Vault experiments was to help prepare the Enclave for either re-colonizing Earth or colonizing another planet if Earth turned out to be uninhabitable by unmutated humans.

The total number of vaults is a government secret and has been lost; there were the aforementioned "public" vaults, which numbered 122 and an undisclosed number of "private" vaults. Information on whether Vault-Tec was an international corporation and were there vaults made by them in other parts of the world, or were they strictly U.S. based, cannot be released due to Vault-Tec and US Government regulations[1]

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:58 am

Your information may or may not be valid to answer some questions.

In any case, that would imply that the government actually thought they could win the war, and re-populate. Our own government did believe in acceptable losses. So why would the Fallout government be any different. And with the opening movie from Fallout 2 we have to assume the Enclave sees no purpose in the Vaults.

In any case Fallout 2 said the Enclave believed themselves to be the new american goverment, so there is no reason to believe that would change.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:08 am

Your information may or may not be valid to answer some questions.

In any case, that would imply that the government actually thought they could win the war, and re-populate. Our own government did believe in acceptable losses. So why would the Fallout government be any different. And with the opening movie from Fallout 2 we have to assume the Enclave sees no purpose in the Vaults.

Its not your own government... Its a paranoid government living in a world where they have the only source of oil, and everyone else wants it, and many of those people has a bunch of nukes pointed at them. Even the "friends" of America arent on friendly terms. Its a world where McCarthyism never went away, and M.A.D. (Mutually assured destructioin) seems enevitable.
In any case Fallout 2 said the Enclave believed themselves to be the new american goverment, so there is no reason to believe that would change.

They dont believe themselves to be the new government at all, they see themselves as a continuation of the old government.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:59 am

Is the spaceship thing official (from The Vault) or is it something somebody made up?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:32 am

Is the spaceship thing official (from The Vault) or is it something somebody made up?

As official as it gets.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:03 am

The Vault Systems were atleast in some part run by the government, and Enclave...In one of the terminals after you revisit 101, the overseer talks about how the Enclave attempted to get into the vaults using the standard password that they know about each vault. The Overseer wouldn't let them in even though they said they came in "peace"

So it means they atleast infiltrated the networks of Vault Tec...Or they just knew it from the get go.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 11:37 pm

The Vault Systems were atleast in some part run by the government, and Enclave...In one of the terminals after you revisit 101, the overseer talks about how the Enclave attempted to get into the vaults using the standard password that they know about each vault. The Overseer wouldn't let them in even though they said they came in "peace"

So it means they atleast infiltrated the networks of Vault Tec...Or they just knew it from the get go.



Well, if this is an Enclave in any way connected communications wise to the West Coast, as they would imply, they would know about earlier Vaults like the whole Fallout 2 story.

Watch Fallout 2's opening cinematic.

That's what happens when the Enclave comes in "peace".

(the poor guy even waved)
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