And you can do the same thing without the skill. No need to actually have skills in the game. RPing in a nutshell: "Who should get Hoover Dam/What should I do at Helios one?" Not RPing: "what skill should I 'master' first if I am going to max them all anyways?"

What about skill books/magazines?

If skills aren't in the game, maybe they'll boost the ranks of certain perks.

And you lose a level of diversity and customization. We can still role play if there's no weapons, or enemies, or VATS, or SPECIALS, or perks. But why would you? That's not an argument.

Fact remains that a character with 90 in guns is different than one with 50. Gameplay and RP wise. Plenty examples have been given. You've given none showing otherwise. Basically you just changed your argument from skills had no RP relevance, to their RP relevance wasn't needed to still RP.

I personally don't believe skills are gone. That would be too stupid on Beth's part.

Skills are present in some form (though they are probably conflated into perks as hypothesized by many).

https://i.4cdn.org/vg/1434346921383.jpg

I do not think they are gone either, just as a "put points here to 100" way.

At least one of the perks on the perk poster has the same icon as the speech skill did in Fo3 and NV.

and we know from the weapon mod scenes that Science is a perk now.

Its likely all the skills got replaced by perks in some fashion.

I think we'll see the same skills NV had, but perhaps with some merging.

Skills are there, the "tab" to the left of the SPECIAL tab. Just watched the gameplay footage from the Xbox keynote. Right after the PC leaves the vault, they show the pip boy and you can see Skills, though it seems grayed out. Maybe you're still locked into the tutorial and can't pick skills til a little later.

Edit: This video here about 1:07 in https://youtu.be/-3nYFn-aIno

I thought that said Status, Special and Perks? Time to rewatch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3nYFn-aIno or something else?

Yup you're right, I'm blind. Sorry.

Did notice though in that vid for the first time that sprinting eats up AP. Only hope now is that Skill is beyond the perk tab.

Pretty sure it said Status yesterday, the MS one looks like the letters can almost be KILLS.