OXM perk leveling leak was made up

Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:01 pm

Turns out the story about perk leveling that appeared here (amongst many, many other places) does not appear in the article.

http://www.gamespresso.com/2015/08/30/fallout-4-has-275-separate-xp-levels-one-for-each-individual-perk-pg-35/

Now that the official OXM magazine is out, there is no reference to the leaked information anywhere in the article.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:27 pm

Possibilities:

  • A misunderstanding by OXM now corrected by omission.
  • Correct information not included for reasons of space.
  • Correct information not included at request of Bethesda.

Lies to wind up gamers? Seems unlikely.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:59 pm

I'd be wary of taking annything for fact before the game releases. With the ammount (or lack there off) of information going around, several online magazines and gamesites (yes Gamespot/IGN, i'm looking at you :stare: ) have been rehashing old news as new, like the before mentioned websites posting video's about the number of lines spoken while that has already been covered at E3. Also, since this does not come from the mouth of either "Pete" or "God Todd" you need to take it with a grain of salt and wait for actual release of game or info (from them) to confirm this.

However, in the case of this being true, it actualy sounds like a nice thing to me. We will wait and see.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:53 pm

No, the quote attributed to OXM is true.

Your possibilities leave out the truth -- what OXM reportedly said is correct. You misread it (and so did I at first, and apparently so did quite a few others).

According to the reports, OXM says, "You'll still level up via XP, and each level increase will still give you point to spend on a perk, but now those perks have varying XP levels of their own. It’s perk-ception, essentially, and means that, should you theoretically play long enough to max out every tier of every single one – gaining untold buffs and no doubt all kinds of horrendous real-world illnesses in the process – you’ll top off with a total of 275."

In other words, You still level up by accumulating experience points. Each level increase will still give you a point to spend on a perk, but now those perks have varying levels of their own (i.e., they have ranks).

When OXM says, "You'll still level up via XP," "XP" means (or probably means) "experience points." That statement is true.

When OXM says, "Perks have varying XP levels of their own," "XP means "experience," not "experience points." "XP levels" means only "ranks", and we know that perks have ranks. A rank-1 Gun Nut is a less-experienced Gun Nut than is a rank-2 Gun Nut.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:39 pm

Source? Because this quote is not in the OXM article... at all. Do you have an OXM source that can verify this statement to be true?

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:08 am

Before game's release I always take articles online with a grain of salt. Sure, print magazines are the way of the dinosaur, but online mags are too susceptible to just being outright yellow journalism to get clicks and views.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:20 pm

They must have omitted it from the American version. The "perk-ception" quote is in the UK version. It doesn't matter though. It's a strangely worded way of saying what we already knew about the leveling system. That most perks have levels.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:01 pm

For me personally I'm not the type of player that's going yo obsess over this stuff pre-release so I just avoid articles etc.
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:29 pm

It doesn't matter what OXM says or what OXM might have said, because the alleged quote, whatever its source, speaks the truth. If you think otherwise, then you are probably misreading it. You wouldn't be alone. I misread it myself and was confused by it at first. Now that I have caught my mistake, the quote makes sense. :smile:

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:52 pm

It was merely written poorly.

They still meant you need to put skill points into perks to level them up, (This isn't new, Perks had ranks in the old games, the writer probably didn't know that.)

But the way it was worded definitely seems like the individual perks level up from use, A La Skyrim, At first glance.

re-reading it closely, You can see it doesn't actually mean that, Youtubers, etc just took it and Ran with it as they always do.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:57 pm

It sure would be nice if beth throws us a bone soon, I understand the secrecy and everything but we(well, some of us, myself included) have been reduced to picking through dodgy scraps of info and crappy articles.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:21 am

Wherever people keep getting this "salt" the owner of said salt is gonna be pissed when they come back to find the salt bag empty...

:bonk:

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Stacy Hope
 
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:43 pm

Gamers are always so salty. It is really funny how people will interpret this wording, though.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:01 pm

It's a figure of speech.

To take with a grain of salt means to take it with a bit of skepticism.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:37 pm

The UK version of OXM is known for having a different Staff than the US version. They have also been known to stir up more trouble than IGN does on occasion.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:36 pm

Bethesda's marketing has been rather terrible thus far. What's the point of announcing your game 5 months in advance when you're just going to show a little footage in June and then stonewall your fans until release? Do you want inaccurate speculation? Because that's how you get inaccurate speculation.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:13 pm

Terrible or brilliant? People are hungry for more....So instead of giving them what they want, they give a little taste here and there.... and people will eat up every little scrap they can until the game comes out. There will always be inaccurate speculation... they could release an hour of game footage and people will find the most minute of details and blow them out of proportions.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:32 pm

Dont worry, i will give him a sack of salt back when FO4 is out :D

I think he is well aware of that :D aldo i can think of a few times where i tried translating dutch sayings to english that realy didnt turn out to well :bonk:

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:57 am

Not sure which it is, but with all games from big companies they're pretty much always trying to expand their audience, which is of course why so many games get "ruined" :). With Fallout 4 the standout features that seem to be aimed at bringing in new players are improved FPS and voiced protagonist, maybe the settlement building too.

The problem with newcomers is they don't get nearly as excited or interested as the hungry already established fans, the fans who eat up every scrap and speculate and all that. The hungry people are the ones that are buying the game anyway, as many say the ones for which the game sells itself. For the newcomers I think maybe more marketing is needed.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:44 pm

I like my gamers tangy with a hint of garlic.

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