That's not exactly true about Fallout Shelter... Joshua Graham was one of the first special characters I got from a lunchbox.

If I run into an NCR Soldier, the first thought I'm going to think is "What is this [censored]hole doing here?"

If I find mention of Mr. House at the Institute...I can dig it, he was apparently an MIT student. Correspondence, student records...etc...

If I hear people talking about The Courier...I don't care...I lived those adventures, I don't need them recounted to me...I know what I did. I know how it went down.

Isn't he a generic NPC that happens to be named Joshua Graham?

I tried to search for him in the wiki and I can't see anything related to Fallout: Shelter.

Saying there's not enough room on the board is asinine, I'm presuming Bethesda or someone on their behalf designed the board (within whatever regulations stipulated by whoever owns the Monopoly brand).

If Bethesda wanted New Vegas on the monopoly board they could have easily partitioned the number of locations between the games differently to allow New Vegas in the Monopoly board; such as having Fallout 1 and 2 share a side, allowing space for New Vegas to occupy one of the sides.

In regards to the second paragraph I'm going to suggest Occam's razor on this one.Pete has stated that the game takes place 200 years after the greatwar as has codsworth in game; as far as I'm concerned that's the most logical assumption/presupposition to believe with out current level of information.

As for the excerpt in bold I'm not sure what point you're attempting to make.But I'm suggesting that Fallout 4 does continue their Fallout timeline as they possibly don't consider New Vegas to be part of it; if not it's a flagrant paradox, and a sudden change of opinion on the matter which seems highly capricious.

Doesn't NV happen during the same time period as F4? Like Parallel?

New Vegas takes place in 2281 while Fallout 3 and 4 take place concurrently in 2277 (from what we know so far).

Not...quite...

There are a few theories...One being that Fallout 4 takes place roughly parallel to Fallout 3, New Vegas took place...five to eight or so years after Fallout 3...The hint to that is the constant use of it being 200 years later. From the date the bombs dropped, 200 years exact is around the time Fallout 3 was taking place.

We do not know if this is true or not.

You're reading way too much into it. They wanted a clean 4 sided board for the monopoly game. 4 main games, 4 sides of the board. There's no grudge between Obsidian and Bethesda, is what I am trying to say. Because a lot of people seem to be of the impression that they both secretly hate each other when all evidence points to the complete opposite.

It's possible that Bethesda asked Obsidian to progress the time line because they had plans for Fallout 4 already, no? Unless I've missed a part where it was said that every entry into the series will progress time. And even then, if Beth doesn't really consider NV as an entry, the point of moving time doesn't matter as I'm sure 4 is at least slightly after 3

Honestly, I wouldn't even be surprised if we see a portrait of House in the institute or something like that. Dude was a self-made billionaire after he finished up at MIT, and I bet the faculty there felt a tinge of pride in fostering a man with that much ingenuity.

Where is this Fallout Monopoly board? I've never seen a picture of the official one, just fan made boards.

EDIT: Nevermind, found it in the Bethesda store.

For me that was the case. One of the first Vault Dwellers I got during my brief time with Shelter was a generic NPC named Joshua Graham.

I made a thread about this not long ago and I will mention it again here. The mini game Atomic Command has the fabulous New Vegas sign as one of the locations in the game. It is not the prewar Las Vegas sign many have argued. If you look at the damage on the sign, specifically at the "a" and "s", in Vegas, it has the same damage as what we find in FONV. I don't know why they put it in a mini game created before the war. Maybe they see it as no big deal, just a mini game but at least it acknowledges FONV.

With the first trailer of FONV, we see ED-E traveling along with a bumper sticker from Roosevelt Academy. I liked that. I felt like ED-E was taking us along with him to the next FO game. If there was going to be an Easter egg or some small reference to FONV besides Mr House, I always believed we may find one of the REPCONN (Bright Followers) rockets crashed somewhere in MA. I know the endings of FONV ... I'm just saying one of the rockets might have crashed in MA.

It actually wasn't Todd who said that, it was Feargus of Obsidian speaking about Bethesda.

And we already know that FO4 can't be at the same year as FO3. It was already confirmed that Fallout 4 takes place "mostly after Fallout 3". FO3 starts in August... and I doubt the Lone Wanderer finished everything in 2177.

http://www.pcgamer.com/fallout-4-takes-place-mostly-after-fallout-3/

There is a very good chance that there are trade routes between the East and West Coasts. Having said that, it is extremely unlikely that one or more trade caravans make the trip across the continent. These are TRADE caravans, not exploration caravans. These people are in business. The will have a route they travel. One may go from the DC Wasteland to Charlettesville and then return to the DC Wasteland. Another might make a run from DC to Annapolis to Baltimore and then return. But the Caravan Master that decides to go from DC to San Francisco will probably never be heard from again. Trade from DC to the west coast would be in short hops, with different caravans and not giant leap.

In theory, more than one copy of the Survival Guide would make it to the Mohave just as fast in short hops as it would if it was just one long leap. In practice it would probably take a couple of extra months. Either way, it would take less than a year. There is plenty of time for quite a few copies to make their way West in the four intervening years between Fallout 3 and Fallout NV. Additionally, as others have pointed out, for printed material that is considered valuable, locally produced copies will be created at many points between the East and West Coasts.

Generally speaking, information and trade goods would make their way across the continent by a kind of Brownian Movement and not as an Arterial Flow as some imagine. This brings us to information. Most "News" will be word of mouth. It will get corrupted in the telling and retelling. Printed information such as the Survival Guide will remain the same, but reprints of it may be edited to suit local needs. On the whole, the Survival Guide will remain largely intact will there WILL be differences between the DC Edition, the Des Moines Edition, the Pueblo Edition and the New Vegas Edition. As an example: Moira is unlikely to put anything in the Survival Guide about Cazadors. She probably isn't even aware of their existence. But you just know that the local entrepreneur would at least put a small entry into his/her version about those thrice-damned bugs.

Now all of that doesn't mean that some people haven't made the entire trip between the Coasts. All that we know of, have done so out of a perceived necessity. There are bound to be a few with wanderlust that have done it simply because they have a desire to see what is over the next hill. The smart ones (that is to say, the ones that survived) probably did it by working their way across as caravan guards, brahmin wranglers, cooks, etc. Moving from one caravan to the next. These people would be a good source of News, but would they be believed? I mean really, each of the protagonists have SAVED THE WORLD with nothing more than a worn 10mm pistol, six rounds of ammunition and a bobby pin. Were they all orphaned as babies and raised by deathclaws or something?

What is possible to learn about previous Fallout game (specifically about Fallout Tactics, Fallout 3 and Fallout NV) is a function of time and distance. If enough time has passed for the information to travel the distance, then the amount of information we receive will depend on the relevance to the situation in Boston. Consider. The Brotherhood scribes on the East Coast probably knew quite a bit about the activities of the Chosen One, but we learned very little about Fallout 2 from them. The reason is that it simply did not have much to do with what was happening in the Capitol Wasteland in 2277. So all we got was a few appetizers and had to wait for Fallout NV (which relied heavily on the canon endings to Fallout 2) to get the main course.

Assuming that Fallout 4 takes place at the same time that Fallout 3 does, we will learn nothing about the canon endings of Fallout 3 and Fallout NV. There simply would not be time for the information to travel to the Boston area from DC and since Fallout NV hasn't even occurred yet, the information would have to pass through some kind of time portal.

Assuming that Fallout 4 takes place at least a few months AFTER Fallout 3 then the information could have gotten to Boston. It would probably take six months for most of the information to get there. If Fallout 4 takes place a half year after Fallout NV then some of the information could arrive in Boston but it would probably require a year or more for a significant portion of it to arrive. That leaves how pertinent the information is to Fallout 4's story. We know of three possible sources of information in the game. The Brotherhood, the Institute and Piper (she IS running a newspaper, or at least trying to start one). They may know about all three of the semi-canon games (Fallout Tactics, Fallout 3 and Fallout NV) but unless the information is relevant to the current situation in some way, the only way they are likely to share it is if the situation is not dire and they have time to swap tales of daring do. This is Fallout, the situation is always dire.

I hope nobody beat to this:

There will be plenty of dam references about the dam thing that happened in New Vegas at the dam area. Now, where can I get some damn bait?

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Ok, on a serious note, I will expect there to be a few nods to New Vegas, maybe even a character or two. As far as the main quest goes though, I'll doubt we'll get anything you can definitively draws conclusions from, like NPCs saying, "Hey, did you hear about the fight at the Hoover dam?"

I've heard word that Fallout 4 occurs before the start of New Vegas. It would be cool if we traveled to the Divide just before its destruction and get to see everything before and while it gets destroyed.

You should hear a bartender ask a customer, "what the heck's a Sunset Sarsaparilla?"