Android versus Cryogenics

Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:54 am

I suppose the cryogenics theory would make a more believable explanation as to what happened in Vault 111 after the bombs drop. Though what if the PC is indeed an android with false memories implanted? Having to circle back later to Vault 111 to uncover some hidden plot twist about other vault residents who are incomplete or non functional androids?

Given the wiki Fallout lore on Androids, even the BoS was as different as night and day in Fallout 3 versus how we saw them in New Vegas. So it's quite possible, Androids could no longer be viewed as slaves in Fallout 4 since it takes place some time after Fallout 3, in a different city. Plus the fact that you can see what appears to be the Vault Tech salesman from post war, walking around in a Fallout 4 settlement, during post war. Obviously everything is pure speculation, though the android theory could also explain the robotic voice acting from Delaney after the bombs drop.

In any event, I definitely don't believe PC is truly the soul survivor of Vault 111. The Lone Wanderer was never really the Lone Wanderer since his / her father was basically doing the same thing. The Courier was not the only Courier roaming in the Mojave Wasteland.

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mike
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:18 pm

...Time will tell...

Those who are wrong will rage.

Those who are right will say nothing because they will be busy playing the game.

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Meghan Terry
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:44 am

Is cryogenics a 'theory?' I thought it was confirmed. That you get frozen in the vault anyway.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:41 pm

Cryogenics

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Alisia Lisha
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:40 am

The Fridge one.

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Carlos Rojas
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:51 am

Eh, if you're a synthetic then healing broken bones suddenly becomes a lot trickier. You could hand-wave it with 'nanites' or something, but overall I think you'd notice pretty quickly if you were a synthetic.

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Luis Longoria
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:06 am

Betehsda never officially confirmed anything. It's all just educated guess and speculation at this point. Unlike with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ3wZbpCmfw, Bethesda has pretty much been tight lipped on any Fallout 4 confirmations, other than what we saw at E3.

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Jhenna lee Lizama
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:35 pm

If you were an android I dont think you would've kept your wedding ring on
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Eric Hayes
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:59 pm

Depending on the severity of the injury, I would assume so. Though if the android theory is even partially true, perhaps gaining knowledge of the PC being an android may be an early game reveal involving a deeper twist late game.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:03 am

Implanted memories. Why not not leave the wedding ring on the android to convince the android the memories are real? Similar to The Replicated Man quest from Fallout 3.

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Oyuki Manson Lavey
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:54 am

You're an android brain in a human body, or a human brain in an android body.. .....................or a clone of an android that's a clone of you that's a clone of your son that's a clone of you that's a clone of an elephant named Stephen that's cloned from a woolly mammoth that had your brain transplanted in it.

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Sebrina Johnstone
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:22 am

I hope the player character isn't an android. I'd rather play as a flesh-and-blood -person.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:17 pm

The stasis field used on the virtual reality chairs. The chairs don't "freeze" the subject cryogenically, they literally stop the flow of time within the physical confines of the chair, or slow the passage of time in the chair to almost zero.

Because the linear passage of time has come almost to a stop for the subject in the chair they can remain in one indefinitely as long as the stasis field has power to operate. The moment that power is lost the person in the simulator chair stands up with no physical perception of how long they have been sitting in the chair.

It could be 2 years or 200 years or 2,000 years and to the subject returning to normal time flow it would seem like "just a couple seconds ago I sat down in that thing."

The only way that frame of reference would work was if they were receiving the mental stimulation of a VR simulation, without the simulation time spent in the chair would pretty much seem like the blink of the eye.

So my personal theory so far with nothing to work on, if that the player gets into a VR chair, they get put into stasis, the VR simulation that is supposed to run never boots up, 200 years later the vault has a power loss or brown out that causes the player to get dumped out of stasis, and as far as the player's perception of time goes the bombs only fell a couple minutes ago.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:01 am

The protagonist could be a cyborg of course, human body with an enhanced brain (with implanted memories) which would allow the 'android' storyline without the problems of your body healing like a human....of course they never explained how Harkness could have passed for human for years, so perhaps the Harkness type android was a cyborg in that it had human skin that could be healed like a human. Did any of the doctors/medics in F3 have access to x-ray or scanners that would allow them to see the artifical bones (or equivalent android parts)?

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:41 am

Cryo. I don't want to play an android.

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Michelle Smith
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:29 pm

Cryo makes the most sense because it doesn't turn the whole story into a sci-fi cliche. Well, any more than post-apocalyptia already is.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:26 pm

IT ISN'T A THEORY. http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/29337/article/fallout-4-vault-111-is-a-cryolab-facility/and this is old news. This baseless hype about androids that came only from fans musing and speculating is contempibly irritating. I see it way too often all over forums and Youtube, it doesn't make sense and there are no hints at all from Bethesda to back it up. It's been very cliché - it is overused and lacks original thought. Why would Bethesda do something so silly as make the protagonist an android when it would ruin the game for far too many fans?

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:36 pm

It would be impossible for me to feel any sort of attachment to a walking, talking toaster. I would have no motivation to play the game.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:56 pm

Android theory would leave so many plotholes.

We know synths dont need flesh as demonstrated by the synths seen fighting in the trailer. Why is flesh injury than fatal?

Why is radiation damaging to metal and mechanics? Why can radiation damage to a mechanical construct be repaired by a medicine meant for biological lifeforms?

How can any injury be healed? How can stimpaks heal mechanic injuries? How can food and water?

Is the protagonist going to be vulnerable to EMP? If no, then why not? Wouldn't any doctor visit immediatly uncover the truth about your physical state?

Wasnt the protagonist a veteran? Why would you send your top of the line AI to a scenario where it could get harmed or captured? Or injured and exposed?

It just seems entirely a stretch with far to many glaring plotholes. And if you're going through with it and just say "yah you need to eat and drink like a human, get injured like a human, need your soft tissue and organs like a human, repair damage like a human, infact in every possible way you are human." Then whats the point of even being an android?

The cryogenics thing atleast seems feasible in the Fallout lore and provides a perfectly adequate explaination as to why the Lone Survivor is in Boston 200 years after the War. No need to overcomplicate it any further.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:55 am

Implanted memories/android realization would be a seriously weak plot device.

I'm almost certain that this won't be the case.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:03 am

Good question. What we do know is somehow The Railroad faction from Fallout 3 fought for android equality to be treated as human beings and not as slaves. The Institute, supposedly responsible for the creation of androids believes in the exact opposite. Since The Institute hunts down escaped androids, like Harkness in The Replicated Man quest, there must exist some possible technology to track and identify androids.

I have a feeling both the Railroad and The Institute factions will have a much more prevalent role, being the main good and evil factions in Fallout 4, as Todd Howard said in an interview that humans and androids would have a better understand in relations in Fallout 4. So whether or not, PC is actually an android, it's safe to say androids will definitely have a more forefront role in Fallout 4.

I would take that with a grain of salt until confirmed by a more reliable source. Game Informer has been wrong before.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:24 am

We are controlling a character that is controlling a character that is in a post-apocalyptic world.

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Sarah Bishop
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:51 pm

This is the kind of logic we need, well said. There's no real logic to him or her being an android, and this post points out many very valid reasons why it isn't logical. Bethesda may sometimes have weak plot devices, but never as weak as to make the protagonist an android...just cuz.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:44 pm

A Virtual Reality setup, ah la the Matrix or Tranquility Lane (Vault 112).

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Gisela Amaya
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:31 pm

My protag is not some damn robot.

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