At first I thought armor and upgrade system is amazing, but it was only a terrible illusion. We start with the vauilt suit we can upgrade - awesome. We can attach pieces to it - great, but why can't we upgrade other armors as well? I'm +40 hours in the game and the only things I'm able to upgrade are pieces and Vault Suit. Why this HORRIBLE limitation?

We have other armors, full body armors to be exacty, but we can't upgrade them? We can't upgrade clothes either. No words for this terrible choice.
I've found some nice looking armors, but they're terrible weak. Can't upgrade them, can't attach anything to them... so what's the point?

Bethesda, please add an option to upgrade them or attach pieces to them in one of your incoming patches. It would help a great deal and I finally wouldn't be sentenced to the vault suit for the whole game...

There's plenty of others out there that can be layored and upgraded. Literally an hour into playing you can find it. I'm currently wearing worn army fatigues with metal and leather armor

I sold my vault suit maybe two hours into the game since I wasn't a fan of the way it looked, especially with armor pieces. Really do some more exploring. There are plenty of base clothing out there that can have armor attached. Sure not the drifters outfit but there are plenty.

These armors CAN'T be upgraded or my game is suddenly bugged. What I mean is that vault suit can be upgraded and in addition, it uses armor pieces. But you can't upgrade other armors, even with perks. So you either wear full body crappy armor without an option to upgrade it, or you wear crappy light armor without an option to upgrade it, but with pieces attached to it. So far Vault Suit with extra pieces is way superior to anything I've found in the game.

The vault suit is NOT armor. It has upgrades that can be made to it directly but it is clothing. You can wear armor on TOP of the vault suit and upgrade that.

There is a number of clothing that can be worn under the armor just like the vault suit

Sigh. Can you please read again what I wrote? I don't care whether Vault Suit is an armor or clothing. It's the only clothing/armor thing I can UPGRADE and I'm not talking about attached PIECES.
In my +40 hours of playing I've found lots of clothes, but none of them can be UPGRADED like the vault suit. Even full body ARMORS can't be upgraded. This is the horrible limitation I'm talking about.

I'm more bothered by the fact that the Vault suits are pretty much the best option for under-armor. Not only are Vault suits upgradeable, but they're also the only ones that have Radiation resistance. Pretty much all armor pieces provide bonuses to Ballistic and Energy resistances, but Radiation Resistance seems harder to come by, and the only under-armor that gives any is the Vault suit.

Also, there are a handful of other under-armors that can be upgraded. Only about 7 or 8, I think, but they do exist.

Oh ok yeah your wording kinda [censored] blows there. But yeah the vault suit is a specialized piece of clothing where the others are not. You might get clothing upgrades at some point but that doesn't seem to be a priority. You get special upgrades if you remain in your vault suit. Don't get your hopes up of adding upgrades to regular clothes

So they do exist? Thank you for confirmation. I haven't found any, so maybe I'll get lucky soon. Everytime I found some clothes I took them to work workbench, but nothing was upgradable sadly. It's also a shame we have only about 8 as you said. Do you remember which clothes are upgradable?

Anyway, adding more options in the upcoming patches would be great.

Not offhand, but I'm not at home. I'll be back in about half an hour, and will post the list then.

Awesome, thank you.

So, I just had the list typed up, but ran into a problem. One of the items on the list is the Minuteman outfit, which I didn't remember showing up in my list when looking at the Armor Workbench. Loaded it up in-game, and sure enough, the Minuteman Outfit didn't show. I was ready to say I was wrong, but then I actually paid attention to the icon in the official guide. Turns out that the items I will list are upgradeable, but those upgrades can only be performed by siding with The Railroad. Specifically, you need to complete the Radiant quest 'Jackpot'. Afterwards, you apparently need to talk with Tinker Tom to unlock the ability to perform upgrades on these items:

Army Fatigues

Baseball Uniform

Dirty Army Fatigues

Green Shirt and Combat Boots

Military Fatigues

Minuteman Outfit

Tattered Rags

The Vault Suits can also be upgraded (as you're aware), but you don't need the help of The Railroad to perform those upgrades.

As for the quest you need to do, it's apparently available from PAM at Railroad HQ. From the sound of it, you can join up, get the ability to upgrade the item(s) you want, and then work for whatever faction you actually want to side with; you don't need to permanently side with The Railroad to get these items upgraded.

As I said before, though, the listed items all have 0 Radiation Resist, while the Vault Suits top out at 25. This is the only way to get Radiation Resist on an upgradeable under-armor item, which I find important; all Arms, Legs, and Chest armor items only have Ballistic Resist and Energy Resist, never Radiation Resist. The Vault Suit gives your character a more well-rounded set of defenses than the other items.

Thank you for the information. These limitations are horrible and doing a quest for being able to upgrade clothes is just ridiculous, especially since we can upgrade only a few.

It indeed seems that armor pieces combined with upgraded vault suit is superior to anything we'll find in the game. Too bad. I'm playing on very hard and it's really easy to get killed without a proper protection, which I won't get from a clothes with 0 or 2 armor.
If bethesda won't extend upgrades, then I hope some modders will and these mods will be available for console players... otherwise, I'm very disappointed. Even crappy DA:Inquisition wasn't that limited with crafting and upgrades.

Well Ash, it's that or using PA like most of us

Im kind of upset that outfits and full suits of armor can't be upgraded at all. A lot of them I would say look better than most of the armor pieces, but their stats are so terrible there's no reason to use them.

Actually, some outfits can be, but they need the Railroad to perform the upgrades, and there seemed to be no rhyme or reason to which ones can. All Child of Atom outfits can me, for example, as can a Bathrobe, but a Hazmat Suit can't. It's ridiculous.

I love the look of Kellog's and the BoS lighter outfits, but you can't add left arm/leg and right arm/leg pieces to them. Its highly annoying not to be able to build on those armors. They would be perfect! And the Field Scribe outfit even comes with a back pack on the back. That would be awesome if I could upgrade it more for better DR.

I've just been rolling with Road Leathers with shadowed combat armor plates on my chest, arms and legs. The color schemes with other leathers look bad with the combat armor other then the road leather. I wish I could add these plates to Kellogs or the BoS's outfits

Kellog's armor looks really great, both on male and female. I've been using it on my PC, but eventually I was forced to get back to my vault suit and attached pieces, because Kellog's armor was way too weak later in game. It's really a shame we can't upgrade it or at least attach something to it.
Also, it would be really great if we could get an option to re-color some armor pieces. We can add paint job to PA, so I don't see a problem with adding someting similar to armor pieces or full body armors.

I was very lucky to find a full set of heavy combat armor at level 11 from a high level raider settlement all with red skulls next to their names lol. The raider commander of the settlement was equipped with it. I burnt through all my ammo and meds but it was worth the long grind because it gave me over 100 defense points with all pieces. I'm level 24 now and I've yet to find an armor piece that even comes close to it's stats. It's completely upgradable too

This will, most likely, be one of the very first things that gets modded.

Not only that, but most likely, there will be mods that let you put the armour addons on all the clothes (clipping be damned!)

I really like the cage armor, looks nice, rugged and pretty post-apocalyptic

Theres outfits and theres jumpsuits, outfits replace all your armor pieces but jumpsuits can have armor pieces layered on top of them, there are other jumpsuits besides the vault one like the army jumpsuits and the brotherhood of steel jumpsuits, you just gatta find them.

I want my heavy combat armor or sturdy at least, please game please!!!!!!!!!

We know, but only a few "jumpsuits" can be upgraded, and only by siding with the Railroad. You can't wear Outfits with armor, and the stats on them are extremely poor, so you can't have the look you want and expect to actually survive combat. That's what we're upset about.

I finally finished Jackpot yesterday and I'm able to upgrade clothes. There's one "but" tho. Why can't we upgrade every clothing after that quest? I really don't get it. Why so many limitation with crafting? I don't like how military fatigues look, same with minuteman outfit, so that leaves me yet again with vault suit and it can't have these new powerful upgrades from Jackpot.

Bethesda, just give us an option to upgrade full body armors, like Kellog's. Or at least let us attach something to them.