Strong makes NO SENSE! PLEASE TWEAK!

Post » Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:33 pm

ok some things that i feel really don't make sense in regards to Strong.

Strong for me is FRUSTRATINGLY confusing! he's the ONLY companion i had to look up on the wiki pages because i just didn't understand what this brute liked / loved. sooooo let me get this straight he likes to "help people" but then also likes when you "cannibalize". wait what?… oh and also why is it all super mutants care about is "killing and looting" BUT STRONG DOESNT LIKE WHEN YOU FRIGGIN LOOT! it doesn't make sense to me! he doesn't like stealing but super mutants do that ALL THE TIME in game! settlements even tell you oh super mutants rolled through and took and destroyed everything or they kidnap somebody. why did they have to make strong not like pick locking?! behind that locked door could be something else to kill or loot! he likes "aggressive dialogue choices" but also likes when you give sheffield a nuka cola. SO THEN WHY WHEN YOU GIVE THE VAULT TEC REP A HOME DOES HE DISLIKE THAT?! Its not like he's racist against ghouls cuz he approves of hancock when you switch to him as a companion! there is absolutely no Justification there how those 2 things are both helping someone but he likes one and not the other. Strong makes no sense and ill probably never get his berserk perk because of it. now i get why he doesn't like power armor seeing it as a cheat or cheap way to gain strength i get that. that one makes total sense but thats really it! Nothing else in strongs logic make sense!

Strong i feel needs the most tweaks. he's sooooo confusing imo. why not give him more things he likes? such as giving him heavy weapons, like if you give him a missile launcher with some missile maybe throw in a like or maybe if you upgrade your melee weapons he likes that. or how bout littering?cods worth has it programmed to dislike litter so how bout strong be the opposite?! he voices his dislike for puny human weapons and armor and he sees junk as useless so you'd think he'd like it if you got rid of these items he just told you he dislikes. or how bout he likes the destruction caused by an artillery strike? or maybe he likes when you blow up a car? something! anything! Now i understand that strong wasn't exactly meant to be a complex character but they made him so weird and ironic because although you would think hed be easy to understand he ends up being the most complicated companion available. as i said, he is the ONLY companion i had to "cheat" for because i just didn't know why he liked one thing but disliked the other.

Id really like to hear some opinions back about strong and maybe bethesda can see this and make a couple tweaks to strong that would still make sense and not detract from strongs character or humor cuz i admit he is arguably the funniest of the companions although i find codsworths geeky kind of aura really funny and i also enjoy curies innocence in combat. please make some small tweaks to strong please.

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Chelsea Head
 
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Post » Sun Dec 06, 2015 7:38 am

I guess he's looking specifically for acts of kindness.

Eating someone who is already dead. Not a problem. As Piper would say, "wouldn't want it to go to waste".

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Post » Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:35 pm

It is because he likes when you display dominance and nothing is more dominant than consuming another being for sustenance in the animal kingdom, it is what makes lions dominant in the fields of Africa and what makes humans dominant everywhere else so consuming another man shows him your complete dominance over man. This fulfills his more primal respect for you.

See to him you can display strength by protecting the weak and by consuming the strong.
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Chris Guerin
 
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Post » Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:20 pm

Just set Strong's home to Sanctuary, with all the quests Prestons giving you, you should be set with approval ratings. I mean the guy always seems to have something for me. Plus Companions don't need to be in active service to raise their approval.

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Post » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:28 am

?? I never see any approval 'Likes' or 'Dislikes' except for the companion traveling with me. I'm pretty sure that's how it's done also. Otherwise everyone but Cait would have hated my last character but no, as soon as I dropped Cait I had Danse happy as a clam.

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Post » Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:09 am

At Red Rocket which has all my companions I had a settler give me a random kill quest. And I had at least three likes from the companions that way. Plus Strong dislikes me getting into PA regardless if he's following me, it may be a proximity thing so smaller bases might have this happen while large bases may have them too spread out to notice the cell.

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Post » Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:37 pm

Well actualy its not rly based on them being in a party but by proximity so for example if they like when you mod something and they are in range they will give you the approval even if they arent in a party(same ofcourse applies for turning in/taking certain quests etc..)

Range is actually kinda small so in Sanctuary for example most of the time they will be out of range(unless ofcourse you put a bell close by and call em in to get the aprovals you wanted:)

For example in my current save i never took Codsworth anywhere i just put a bell near the workbenches and before i moded something i rang it and waited for him to show up and i now have max relatioshiop and the free perk that goes with it.

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Post » Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:50 am

This is it, exactly.

All you need to know about Strong is that he like it when you display DOMINANCE. He dislikes you picking locks, not because it is 'immoral', but because you screwing around with a tiny bobby pin and being delicate. He wants you to kick the door in!

He likes you giving Sheffield a Nuka-Cola and a job with you because you are being DOMINANT in that situation. You have all the power. You make him your employee. You say, "Come work for me."

He dislikes you giving the Vault-Tec rep a place to live because you are doing it from a position of weakness - the Vault-Tec rep doesn't show deference to you, and doesn't pledge to "work for you". You just GAVE him something. That's not a dominant display. So Strong doesn't like that.

So kind or cruel does not matter to Strong. Only DOMINANCE.

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