The Maruhkati Selective and the Hurling Disk

Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:50 am

Recently, I've started reading up about the Maruhkati Selective and the Hurling Disk, which, as I understand it, is the middle dawn, too. One of the things that has been confusing me is what are the "http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/lessons.shtml#18" worlds the Disk consists of? An obvious route would make one think of the Daedric Realms (maybe moreso their spheres) and perhaps Nirn? The 16 Realms and the Cloven Duality make 18, as well.... But what is "the victor" mentioned subtracted from the 18? The part of the Duality (that is, the Enantiomorph) that wins?? But that can only be deduced if Masser and Secunda are even involved.

http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/vehk_teaching.shtml#1," the Hurling Disk is a mingling of magic between Solar and Lunar spheres, which made me think of Dusk and Dawn, times where you could, in a sense, see Aetherius and Oblivion at the same time in the sky. While I'm not too sure Azura is directly involved, how do dusk and dawn play into the Hurling Disk.

Half of this is spontaneous rambling, so please...enlighten me, ye glorious bevies of lore knowledge...
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Post » Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:21 pm

1.

17 The Hurling Disk. 283
18 The Egg, or Six Times the Wise.

- http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/lessons.shtml#29


Remove one (-1) from the Egg and you get the hurling disk. The egg is the world. The Hurling Disk is 16 + 1 the http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/lessons.shtml#13.

-1 = 1

One and One = 0-Sum

http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/lessons.shtml#11

OR:

Eighteen, Eight and One, less One, the Victor.

OR:

Numerology, forget about it. It's the symbolic links that matter.

2.

Solar, Light, Magnus, Anu.
Lunar, Moons, Lorkhan, Padomay.

What is made of a combination of Anu and Padomay?

3.

The Middle Dawn, the Hurling Disk, the Dragon Broke, different metaphors for the same thing. What is their purpose?
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:02 am

Muthsera 946000,

There is little more to ask or add after being answered by Proweler, right?

I dubbed him "Thread Killer" long ago, and I can see that the pseudonym still retains its applicability. :bowdown:

And as for you, prow.....you a'makin' the rest of us look bad. Heh heh. :goodjob:


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Post » Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:48 pm

There is little more to ask or add after being answered by Proweler, right?


I chided numerology, then asked two questions. What did I answer?
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:40 am

Ahhhh. Appreciate that there, sir.

Heh, helps me learn the answer while still making me fill kinda smart, lol. Thanks.

Just to make sure:

The Victor is the "ruling king" or rather, the one who achieves godhood, however many may be in this one. (Might be wrong; it's probably Lorkhan and all the stuff he did. Basically, it's probably talking about divine mimicry a la the Enantiomorph)

1 and -1 create a Dawn. In this case, the Middle Dawn.

1008, Eight and One, the Ancestors and the Missing, 8 (The Selective) and "I" (The Tower).

Essentially, it's basically all flashy Vehk-speak. Which makes it cool as [censored].
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:33 am

1 and -1 create a Dawn. In this case, the Middle Dawn.


No. More hints.

It is a return to the first brush of Anu-Padomay, where stasis and change created possibility. Moreso, it the essence needed to hold that 'dawning' together without disaster. One that knows CHIM observes the Tower without fear. Moreso: he resides within.

The world you stand on is said to be the first attempt at chim. It is also admittedly the most famous. That it was choreographed by Lorkhan and ultimately failed is well-documented, but whether or not this failure was intentional is still disputed.

http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/vehk_teaching.shtml
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:50 am

I chided numerology, then asked two questions. What did I answer?

*sigh*

Quit bein' picky, mein freund, and accept the compliment. :rolleyes:


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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:47 pm

Whoa... those folks at Bethesda are sure imaginative/creative to think up such convoluted stuff! :nod: :D
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:04 am

No. More hints.

It is a return to the first brush of Anu-Padomay, where stasis and change created possibility. Moreso, it the essence needed to hold that 'dawning' together without disaster. One that knows CHIM observes the Tower without fear. Moreso: he resides within.

The world you stand on is said to be the first attempt at chim. It is also admittedly the most famous. That it was choreographed by Lorkhan and ultimately failed is well-documented, but whether or not this failure was intentional is still disputed.

http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/vehk_teaching.shtml


Well of course. I was merely mentioning that, as it did in the Beginning, this indeed made a Dawn.

I didn't make a mention of CHIM mainly because of the fact that others have achieved CHIM. Basically, I got hung up on semantics and not necessarily the general idea of apotheosis.

edit: Hey, I just realized that 1 and 8 are in my join date.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.......
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