Query re: BoS storyline

Post » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:24 am

I have heard (dunno if true) that the BoS are anti-ghoul. Does this rise to the level of them attacking civilized ghouls, or is that just talk? I wish to know because if so, it would give my SS a chance to reject the BoS with cause well after joining them. (I do not intent to align with them, but I wouldn't mind some of their toys.)



I realize that the storyline forces a choice, please do not state the obvious.


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Josh Trembly
 
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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:25 am

I haven't seen them take any actions against a normal ghoul and they always refer to "ferals" rather than ghouls as a whole.

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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:56 am


I've been traveling with Paladin Danse and we came across a ghoul kid in a fridge. When I offered to take the kid home, Danse mentioned that it wasn't a good tactical decision, but we can't leave the kid here either. And he liked it that I agreed to help the kid. I also have a ghoul settlement and when I take him there, he's always ok with it. So, I think they are mainly against feral ghouls.



I haven't really gone far in the storyline yet, so not sure about the overall BoS thing...

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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:33 am

My understanding is they have a pronounced distaste for all ghouls but an active extermination policy only for feral ghouls. So Danse is really rude to Hancock as an example but likes when you help the ghoul child find his family or when you help the ghouls at the Slog. I think the BOS logic runs something like this: Ghouls shouldn't exist because they are a physical manifestation of man's misuse of technology. If man had used technology responsibly, ghouls wouldn't exist.


I think this bears out with other sapient lifeforms as well when it's demonstrated individuals aren't a threat to the BOS or mankind generally (as the BOS understands it anyway). Examples of this are that they will spare Virgil once he is cured and they can also be convinced to let Danse go.


In short, they are against the conditions that allow the existence of things like super mutants, synths, and ghouls, but are apparently willing to make exceptions for certain rare individuals that have demonstrated they are not a threat. That and they don't go out of their way to eliminate non-hostile targets like random non-feral ghouls.


*Edit* However, it goes without saying that when you foster an active distaste for all non-humans in your organization, you will recruit some individuals who will happily exterminate all non-humans for no reason except they aren't human. Just like how a very disciplinarian outfit will always attract some sadists. I have little doubt that some BOS rank-and-file could get trigger-happy with some non-feral ghouls with little to no provocation.
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Latisha Fry
 
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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:47 am

Okay, so it sounds like no official, organized pogroms vs civilized ghouls. Rhys might be happy to cleanse the slog's population, but that's just him being kind of a jerk.



Speaking of which, does Rhys ever get over you supplanting him in Danse's affections? I got the impression he wants a reason to hate you. When you say you joined up to find your son, he admits that he cannot find a way to criticize that motive. Which sounds like he wants to find one.

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Ross Zombie
 
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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:32 pm

They use a lot of anti-human rhetoric.



But we don't know what their plans for ghouls are.

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Kelvin
 
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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:48 pm

Excuse me, but "anti-human rhetoric" ?

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Meghan Terry
 
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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:00 am

Super mutants are a disease and BOS only go after FERAL ghouls. Btw you cannot leave any super mutants alive cause they can actually infect others to grow more. This is also the reason institute had to be blown up as it had FEV vats and you cannot just seal them. The last time they just sealed em we ended up getting master, hell even enclave got FEV samples from there.



Finally synths are a immortal machine that look like humans, a machine that does not age, does not need sleep, food or water and is functionally immortal. In a universe where nuclear Armageddon actually happened you do not want a skynet style situation arsing as well considering sythns can be manufactured at a FAR faster rate than a human being, ingame it takes the synth machine around 2 minutes 30 seconds to make one synth. Basically if they decide to wipe us out they can easily do it since they could make an army in a week and their losses could be replaced near instantly.

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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:10 am

They don't go after regular ghouls. After the ending, BoS can be seen patrolling towns with ghouls in it and they don't kill them. They are wary of them like the rest of Commonwealth, but it's not strictly in the doctrine to kill ghouls. Danse actually wants you to help regular ghouls. When you find a kid in a fridge, he likes it for you to help the kid, and he also likes it if you bring him along even though he knows it's disadvantage strategically to have a kid with them.

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Robert Bindley
 
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Post » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:52 pm


Yeah, we also don't see the Institute change under the Directorate but all indications are the BOS are going to kill all the ghouls and other nonhumans.

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Post » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:40 am

Maybe, maybe not, we don't know that at this point, maybe there will be a post ending DLC eventually. At least, Danse (despite his harsh words to Hancock) likes for you to help regular ghouls. I have him around a lot and quests involve ghouls and helping them actually give approval from him.

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