Fallout Economics and How Good Our Settlers Have It

Post » Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:48 pm

This occurred to me last night as I saw the happiness in a settlement drop below 50 again (yes, because of a bug but still).



When I find a "caps stash" (without perks) it's usually less than 30 caps. The most money I can recall taking off raider boss is 110 caps. A clean suit of clothes costs 11 caps, and a good solid handgun around 25. When raiders kidnap someone they usually ask for 300-400 caps as ransom, a sum the family can't easily come up with.



From this we can infer that the average wastelander takes in something like 30-40 caps per week and 350 caps represents a family's life savings.



With that in mind I'll observe that purified water sells for around 15 caps for a unit weighing half a pound, which if you do the math works out to roughly half a pint. Which means that a gallon of fresh water per day (the usual recommendation for good health) would cost 240 caps per day, or six weeks pay. By comparison, the median income in the USA is $51k, so it would be like a gallon of water... one day's supply... cost us around six thousand dollars (I'm using round numbers here, obviously).



Where I'm going with this is that even a little fresh water is a big ticket purchase to almost everyone living in the Commonwealth. A steady supply of it is a luxury inconceivable to most all of them, something reserved for the Zuckerbergs, Bloombergs and Soroses of the wasteland.



And our settlers, the lucky few dozen who take up with us, have it on demand. As much as they can drink, right there at the purifier. We water our crops with it for goodness sake, which means they also have access to better food. That's before we get into the security provided and the fact that many of them are given high-paying, low risk jobs running our shops.



If happiness in any settlement drops below 90% we should be able to poll our residents and boot out the ones that aren't happy, because there must be thousands of poor souls out there who'd kill to be in their shoes.

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Timara White
 
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Post » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:01 pm

I am very amused by this realization

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Post » Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:58 pm

Oh there's no doubt in my mind that the settlers, who have the good fortune to join one of our settlements, should be 100% happy and count themselves lucky! Even without the math, they should be able to count their blessings.



Fresh Water


Real Beds


A roof over their heads


Merchants/Jobs


Plenty of food


Crafting/Cooking opportunities (indoors no less at many of my settlements!)



And yes, I agree, anyone who is un-happy should get the boot, so they can re-visit the places they came for and slept in! LOL



I like your math though, it's rather mind-boggling when you consider the cost of clean water compared to our RL income... $6K for one day supply! Damn!

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Post » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:34 am

I am reminded how it was that most Europeans in the Middle Ages didn't/couldn't trust water to NOT be unhealthy. They circumvented the unhealthiness of water by consuming fermented beverages (mead, ale, wine, and mostly beer) and thoroughly cooked foods ("thoroughly" to avoid food poisoning). Looking at the Cooking recipes in FO4, it seems that the Wasteland inhabitants are doing much the same. Most Soup recipes require Dirty Water, and the results of any cooking yields rad-free food and beverages. This being the case, having one's daily requirement of fluids CAN be easily satisfied.

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Eileen Müller
 
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Post » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:29 am

I agree, a system where default happiness was higher would be better, though with certain specific events (in mods) lowering it. Could be done in a DLC too, but I'm not holding my breath for that.

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Post » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:37 pm


Which is kinda puzzling that you can't use purified water combined with razorgrain to make a better tasting noodle cup. Nope has to be dirty water.

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Post » Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:35 pm

Sturgis "well I cant take all the credit. "



Me "No you cant take any of the credit you jerk, I ran my ass off chopping down trees, scrapping cars, and weaving together newspaper to make rough cloth for beds..... you just banged on that wall with a hammer every time I came around."





Total agreement the settlement people are the most spoiled group of malcontents I have ever seen, no mater the name of the place.



heheh

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Samantha Mitchell
 
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Post » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:46 pm

Great breakdown. However all that anolysis goes out the window when you take into account the cost of ammunition and how everyone bangs away with it like there's no tomorrow.
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Post » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:12 pm



Lol. It's Marcy Long who takes the biscuit, though...


"I'll stop complaining when there's nothing left to complain about."


WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU HAVE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT!?! I take you in after your old home was raided and provide a roof over your head. I spend my own caps on shipments of gears so I can provide you with clean water or copper and oil so that you can enjoy the luxury of electricity, something a lot of wastelanders can only dream of. I assign you the very simple task of tending some crops so that you can have wholesome food to sustain you and you have the temerity to complain!?


It's Legendary Explosive Gatling Laser time, [censored]!
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