I was wondering if you could go crouch or prone in new vegas. It would be pretty cool and they could have it so your aim/precisin is more precise and acurate while in prone or crouch. I think it might make a whole new gameplay playstle if they were to do something like this. Or maybe you could use it for taking cover.

Yes,

one of the things i really missed in fallout 3 was to be able to lie down under low cover when in a firefight. It is such an important aspect when playing a shooting game that its weird it was left out.


Crouching is already possible, but prone would be useful in situations also.

I think it's going to be the same as fallout 3. The system can't deal with prone, don't know why, but there must be a reason why we could not do it in fallout 3. To many bugs..

Maybe for fallout 4.

Prone would just be weird. Crouching is still in though. Even if you're not trying to sneak, crouching does tell you when you've been spotted and make taking cover easier. That really comes in handy.

Why would Prone be "weird"? Prone is the best position for shooting. Crouch is ok but the hardest is standing.

It's one of my wish list requests to have prone in the game and to disable VATS against a prone opponent. Prone is the default position for most snipers and military personnel, particularly when you have explosives involved whether it's RPGs or mortars. One of our teachers was really short, he won the medal of honor because a mortar took off part of his head. It would have gotten more if he'd been taller, so he pulled anyone unconscious or too wounded to move to a med-vac zone. That's him:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_H._Jacobs

Point being, when things go boom, you got to get low.

I wish prone was in the game but I doubt it will be sadly. :sadvaultboy:

There was never a part in FO3 that I wished to be prone in.
Maybe it would be nice to have, especialy for a high strength sniper. But as most fire fights take place at close range. where the enemies rush at speed to close in range of you ( and add melee attacks into the mix as well ). And the lack of turning quickly would make it a poor subsitute for crouch.
Plus with the terrain ( maybe different in NV ) but in FO3 there were so many bumps, hills and other scenery and debris, that lying flat would not give a proper LoS.

Because this post is flaming, I'm going to gibbet it as an example of how you must never address other members on these forums.

Thread continues on the condition that only friendly discussion of crouching and prone positions occur.

So lemme get this straight because I don't know that you could crouch (besides sneak) in FO3 because I simply never played the game this now classifys me as an idiot?

The devs could have added areas where we could prone. Well they did. That crazy old sniper guy should have been prone. There are alot of time I wish I could be prone. Shooting while standing is hard but it is a game after all so I guess it does not have to take that into account.

Problems could be like you talked about is the ground. Clipping and falling through the ground could be problems maybe? I remember sometime ago said that enemies only show up within a specified area or frame, cell, if I am using the right terminology?. If we could prone that would give us a more stable way to shoot. Therefore we should be able to shoot alot further. With a powerful sniper rifle and great skills we should be able to shoot enemies miles away like in real life. Seeing as it's a game, not real life. The game can not handle this. So maybe not letting us prone solves this problem? would love to see enemies miles way. Find a nice spot on a hill side and pick people off from miles away.

Sorry if I am just talking crazy.. One reason why I like fallout tactics. I love picking people off from halfway across the level. Best sniper rifle, very high skills, and sharpshooter perk. Yes I mentioned Tactics again

I'd just assume it was not anticipated.
A "prone" mode could likely have just been a copy of "sneak" mode, but with crawl animations instead of crouch.
The specifics of "prone" would have been changed from what they are in "sneak" :shrug:

?? (Higher DR ? Higher VATS damage ?, speed reduced to "crippled" equivalent? No melee attack?)

I'm not even sure that crouching does anything in terms letting you crawl underneath things, or be harder to hit.... (anyone know?)

I feel the same my favourite area in Fallout 3 is the hill just above greener pastures disposal site. Armed with a scoped weapon is the best way to visit there. As if you look north there are usally two or three giant rad scorpions, a couple of yao gaui. And later on enclave troops. Maybe not a range of miles but I would still say a mile or so view range. It is my favourite snipers spot in the game, Plus it would be a good spot to go prone on.
I would like to see some interactions like calverts manor, but say you hit the use button and it allows you to crawl through gaps.

P.s I am going to have to complete tactics, I started once then just got busy. Oh well we have 4 months to wait for NV so its now or never.




Not that I know of. And crouch still tends to have little effect on enemies hitting you as they just aim for the head ( or just have magic bullets that always hit you ).

You don't do Melee in prone that is the point. Sorry If I am missing your point. Prone is meant for shooting and explosives like mortars (I want mortars in the game) Like NoMan2 said. So you can't do melee in prone, why would you prone when an enemy is close by? You would prone when trying to kill someone farway. Could still have crouch. Point is in real life standing and aiming a rifle is not that easy. It moves around and you have to really steady yourself. I am sure alot of people on here have fired guns so I am not trying to be preachy here It should be common knowlage that standing is very hard to do while shooting (accurately) and prone is the best.

No I treat 99.99% of people on this forum as idiots. Are we gonna be able to smoke ? Are we gonna be able to have six ? What mods do you want ? Can we crouch ? I mean for [censored]s sake where does it end ? Are people really that bored that they have to ask such asinine questions that wont make a [censored] of difference. Who in gods name gives a [censored] if we cant crouch huh ? Yeah yeah I can see it now on IGN reviews " Well Jim, the game was good but the crouching or lack thereof made us only give it a 4" Or Gamespot "The game had depth but I really didnt feel immersed because I couldnt smoke" I mean get fking real people!!!

Ah... My mentioning melee attacks was mechanics related (meaning they would have to disable melee attacks), but really, you can kick and trip people from the ground.

When I mentioned Prone, it was response to your questioning whether it was [for any reason] impossible in the engine ~ (I don't know of course) I really don't believe it's impossible.

I wouldn't mind prone. I remember using it a couple of times in SoC, and it would really help with sniping, but only if the removed the dratted auto-aim.

I am starting to think that as well. The engine just might not be able to handle it. Hopefully for fallout 4. It would be awesome to crawl around and would give us more ways to get into buildings. Having tunnels that we can only fit into if we are crawling.

calm down, people just want more options, nobody every says that the part they loved about a game was how little they could do, if they want it in the game thats their choice to talk to people about it and you don't need to comment.

So kids whats the lesson we learned today? "Always wear helmets!" the kids replied.

Haha I don't know if this guy is serious or not, either way it gave me a laugh.

If it's completely serious, someone just blew a gasket.

Also, I voted for cake.

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