So I've been strolling around with Preston and I have the 'United we stand' perk. I want to make him love me, trouble is I missed the first opertunity to flirt with him so when the romance thing came up it was red and I didn't bother going for it. So I does anyone know whether that first chance is the only chance to flirt with them or do others come up after more time? Because if I've missed the opertunity to jam in love land with him I might just ditch him at the castle.

Why would you want to flirt with that spaz? He might ask you to save another settlement even when you guys are having six

You will regret flirting with him. Don't do it!

I have the opposite problem... I keep trying to ignore him but he keeps coming back wanting to 'talk about things' and I keep ignoring the romance option, but he keeps coming back again and again...

So yes, if you keep him around you will get many more chances to romance him if that is your thing.

Though actually, I am not sure what effect the first 'flirt' option has on the later 'romance' option, as my character just flirts with everyone but only has a romance with two. I very rarely fail charisma checks.

I still get an option to romance him even though I've already gotten his perk and have completed all of his non-radiant quests. He will eventually get to the point where he will want to have the same "talk" with you whenever he has nothing else to talk about, so you will always have the opportunity to romance him.

I happen to like Preston. He's a kind, generous, and honest person and I wish more people were like him, even in real life! (Though I agree that we should only get radiant quests when asking for them.)

Yeah I don't anything wrong with him besides giving radiant quest.

Because Preston is a doll. He's a good guy who wants to do the right thing.


Also... I don't think they asked whether they SHOULD romance him, just if they COULD.


On that note... I'm not sure if you can get him as a romance after you get his perk. I known that the flirt options become harder each time you don't do one and in the final friendship dialogue there's no option. So.... I'm pretty sure you can't :/

People's taste in waifu (and husbando) will vary.

Are you telling me that mid climix inst your favourite way to receive a quest? But no he's the easiest to please with the kind of character i'm going with, and also he's a total babe in the face region

Is the final dialogue the one where he basically tells you he saved you life? i only had one opportunity to 'flirt' and then the next one was 'romance' (but it was red so i had no chance)

Totally agree, and if you're trying to be as good and kind a character as you can then he's real easy to please, just help everyone and he's right chuffed about it. He's also one of the best looking male options for romance in the game.

As long as you have decent charisma or throw on a charisma boosting outfit when the option comes up, you'll be fine. It only takes 11 charisma to pass all speech checks, and you'll frequently pass them even if you don't have 11 charisma. Throw on Reginald's Suit, or Agatha's Dress for a female character (+3 charisma for both), a Trilby Hat (+1 charisma), and some Fashionable Glasses (+1 charisma) and you'll have an extra +5 charisma. If you haven't gotten Reginald's Suit or Agatha's Dress yet, there are numerous outfits that will still give you +2 charisma. The various clean (or dirty) gray/black/tan suits, the red dress, the sequin dress, and numerous others all give +2 charisma. Combined with a trilby and the fashionable glasses you'll have an extra +4 charisma, so you should be fine.

Preston doesn't like chem use, so graqe mentats might not be a good choice for boosting charisma in this specific situation.

The red speech checks are the hardest to pass, but it definitely doesn't mean that romance is out of the question. It just means you need higher charisma. I believe the romance option is -always- a red speech check, even if you've pursued all of the flirt speech options previously.

I'm a straight dude, so I didn't pursue romance with any male companions. If I was going to though, it would definitely be MacCready. As it is, MacCready is basically my 'best buddy' kind of companion. That guy's awesome. I've successfully pursued romance with all three female companions though, and these were all before I had maxed out charisma.

what if you fail the romance option? i hear some people are able to pass it again later, but it seems to be bugged (?) for some (me included) as it doesn't have a colour anymore and becomes impossible to pass; it technically ceases to be a speech check anymore

i'd like to know if this is a bug or not, but i'm guessing it is because of the inconsistency

Save the game before attempting it. If you fail it, then reload and try again. Passing the speech checks is an algorithm based on your base charisma and luck, as well as charisma and luck boosting clothing/chems, but also a randomization element. So even if you don't technically have the required charisma to pass it, you'll eventually pass it just by reloading a few times and trying again.

edit - Or are you saying that your romance option is already green? I'm not sure how to handle that. If it's green you may have lost the option. I've never failed any of the romance speech checks, so I can't really say what would happen in that case.

yeah i know but that doesn't fix the problem, i originally wasn't interested in the romance aspect of the game so i just romanced everyone for the xp and took whatever answer i got thinking i could try again later, but now there's quite a few i seem to have locked out completely

edit: yeah it's just green, and not highlighted

I edited my previous post, but I think you replied first.

If it's already green then I'm not sure what to do. I've always passed the romance options so I've never had to deal with it. If you're on PC you can use a console command to reset the affinity of a given companion, which I believe should put you back at square one with them and open up all flirt and romance speech checks again. You'd want to verify that this was the case before taking me at my word on it though, as I haven't personally tried it.

already tried and not working

there's a console command to make them 'romantic' with you but i'm really just interested in the conversations they have as i'm running out of things to do/explore in the game, and looking it up on youtube or whatever is kind of a bummer

Sounds like you might be out of luck then. If you do a second play through, make a point of pursuing the romance options.

I think Bethesda missed the mark with romance. They need to take bits from mass effect and witcher. I love Bethesda games more than any game in the world and always have; the romance options however are shallow and boring. A speech check shouldn't be a pre requisite to be in a relationship...

You know, you might be right about that. When ever it comes to romance in Bethesda games i always seem to get a little screwed over. I remember in Skyrim I had a husband that died and you're meant to get a letter like handing over the house and its business income but the message never came and i could never remarry. Maybe they just don't see it to have that much value, its possible they only put it in because people ask for it and don't set it all up with as much care and attention as they do other aspects. But im just the consumer, it might just be that im unlucky in love.

Well, in Mass Effect all you have to do is always click the top option on the dialogue wheel and you win! No thinking, no realistic social situations. In the real world if all you did was tell someone what they wanted to hear, you would end up in the friendzone faster than a Deathclaw on jet.

That is coming from someone who thinks Mass Effect 3 is the best game ever and Mass Effect 2 is the second best game ever made. So I mean no disrespect to Bioware, my dream job would be writing for a game like that.

But I honestly believe I have created a better system and written something better, and I will continue to refine it every day until the GECK comes out and I can implement it and see if people agree. Maybe I am just crazy, but I'm sure as hell going to try.

LOL.

"Fine Preston. Let's just stop what we're doing here so you can putz around the Castle while I go out and clear out this raider camp for the 12th time. Seriously, no problem Preston."

Seriously, I just want to nuke the Federal Rations Stockpile and the Corvega Assembly Plant. I've been through those two places so many times that it's just a mechanical process done by memory now. I don't mean a mini nuke...I mean a full on "we're creating a new Glowing Sea" kind of nuke.

I wish can put Preston out of his misery. If I decide to do another run at this game, I'm just killing settlers. I created my own "gang" of settlers and companions putting them in raider gear and sack hoods, but of course I can't do anything with them except sit and watch them farm and stand guard. Which I really don't find fun, so if I play again, it is 2 to the head for every one of em and I will try to leave Preston locked up in the Museum of Freedom. I'm going to try grabbing the PA on top of the building and then just running away....if I try to play a new game(which at this point is unlikely).