Can We Do Away With The "Barren Wasteland"?

Post » Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:19 am

"global elite" did try to rebuild. They were called the Enclave.
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Post » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:09 am

I mean that the world wouldn't be in chaos for over 200 years like how it is in fallout. it would remain in a barbaric state for only a few decades. The rich and the wealthy persons would set up institutions very soon after the bombs fell, because they would know in advance that a "great war" would be coming so I'm confident that they will already have plans of rebuilding.

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Post » Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:25 am

That's an interesting thought, but I think it's kind of like comparing getting hit by a train to contracting a terminal disease. Let me explain...



The k-pg would certainly have generated the kind of heat and shock that you are describing, and indeed, most life would be killed off either directly or by climate issues and so forth that followed.



A nuclear exchange is just as deadly, only slower... Did you ever hear the term "overkill" as it relates to a nuclear exchange? If you haven't, it's a measure of destructive capability that describes killing off every living thing down to the last blade of grass in the opposing country. That's one overkill. Like I said, it's not discussed much anymore, but I remember back when it was estimated that Russia and the US had 100 times overkill capability for each other. In a more modern (or a more nuclear) setting with new players entering the atomic community a true global exchange would mean that every living thing down to the last blade of grass could be killed in over 100 countries. While it's true that such mass destruction is not immediately on a par with the k-pg event, it's no less deadly in the long run. I mean, there's a reason why emergency fallout shelters were abandoned more or less nationwide many years ago... It was recognized that they would do no good, so investing in them was pointless.

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Post » Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:43 am


funny this wasnt a problem with nv even tho half the map was unused

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Post » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:54 am

As was stated earlier,



The World Elite did have plans to rebuild, they did set up an institution, and the player blew up that institution....Uh Twice!!


The Enclave was that Elite group and anyone that played Fo2 and Fo3 knows what happened to them.



As far as the world not being restored withen 10-20 years after the bombs dropped well....For those of you who didn't know Bethsada started this series with Fallout 3....That means that there was in fact a 1 and a 2....Those games were made by the original owner of the IP and guess what....Its their fault the timeline starts so late.



The explanation is that the world above wasn't inhabitable for non-mutants.

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Post » Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:07 pm


Knowing in advance didn't quite work out as planned for Mr. House. Don't assume that just because the Illuminati can control everything in peaceful or potential-war conditions means that they can establish control after total nuclear war as decimated the world. For one thing, they'd probably be too busy fending off attempts by countless other secret societies trying to do the exact same thing. ;)

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Post » Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:27 am


Ever been to the Las Vegas region IRL? I have. It's in the middle of a desert. The only time there's any NATURAL green there is immediately after a rainstorm. All those palm trees in the city were transplanted there and have to be kept watered to survive.

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Post » Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:49 pm


A "worldwide cataclysmic event" that resulted in "the desertification of much of the planet", yet most of the tree trunks from before the initial events managed to remain standing through multiple shockwaves traveling at 220+ mph (360 km/h) without so much as a char from the heat? Yeah, THAT'S believable. :facepalm: Bacteria certainly survived, or the soil would be sterile and nothing would grow no matter HOW well you tended it. That same bacteria - again - would have rendered all that dead organic matter into compost long before FO4 opens its curtain. Had the Commonwealth TRULY been rendered into a desert, then it would look like NV by the time FO4 starts. Where's the "nuclear winter"? In fact, where's ANY snow? All we get is rain or radiation storms. And while we're on the subject of the radiation storms, humans are the only thing absorbing the radiation from them? Please. Every one of those "radiation bolts" should be irradiating everything on the ground - rocks, soil, plants, metals, water. After only a MONTH of that the entire Commonwealth should be literally glowing with the amount of radiation received. "Immersion"? PERVersion is more like it.

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Post » Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:14 am

Were the scenario to have your greenery as desired, we would then have topics "Why".

But that we do have farming and crops, however murky-green the vegetation is, it fits the post nuclear scenario and the immersion better. A bright luscious green and "questions would be asked" !

But ok, present day, seeds are being safely stored deep in an artic mountain is case of a disaster ecology scenario.

And, but ok, people do age in these games as well, I feel my life draining from me as I answer this topic.

My wasteland I prefer to look wasted, I think it fits, and the radiation storms are a "nice touch" to the game-play, washing down the radiated dust that still gets blown into the atmosphere.
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Post » Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:24 am


I was born and raised in New England... Connecticut to be precise. Funny but there were an awful lot of evergreen trees throughout the New England states. Try again.

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Post » Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:02 pm

it probably would be in chaos for much longer. Countries wouldn't have formed by then. It would be small communities that would most likely, as man always has, fight amongst each other. As happened in the past, weaker peoples would get conquered by stronger ones. Just look at the history of Europe before and after the Romans.
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Post » Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:06 am

Why would anyone want to play a Fallout that is full of pretty flowers?

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Post » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:21 pm



Because it would be a lot spookier at night. And having a Deathclaw, or some other enemy jump out at you from the greenery that SHOULD be there, is more immersive than spotting them from a mile away, because everything is dead and there's nothing to hide in.
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Post » Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:53 am

It could be an interesting DLC, to have some small isolated place, that would be covered with green vegetation in the midst of wasteland, like a mountain (like it was in some book) or some island, created by some anomaly made by radiation or something.


But I like wasteland more too. Green is so boring ;-)

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Post » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:03 am

Yup, it's a highly customizable experience. Got a need that isn't being filled? There's a mod for that. Wanna completely twist the game into an H.R. Geiger version of the original product? Say no more, fam. Want it more realistic? You're covered. Want it less realistic? No problem.


No two people will play, or mod, a bethesda game the same way.

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