Bethesda's obsession with American history

Post » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:31 pm


The theme of Fallout 3 was a world of muted palette of gray and brown.

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Sam Parker
 
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Post » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:13 pm


It fits the Boston theme entirely.


As I understand it (A Brit, but one who occasionally enjoys reading about history), Boston is extremely proud of its affiliation with the Tea Party, the start of the revolution, and the birthplace of many pro-independance revolutionaries as well as the forum for their pro-independance activities. Had the setting been elsewhere then yes, the minutemen would indeed have been a ridiculous faction, but in Boston it is perfectly suited.

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Post » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:00 pm


Maybe be a little careful with the way you word things. 'Boston hasnt achieved anything', how would you know? MIT is one of the leading innovators world wide. Not every achievement has to involve military action to be worthy.



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Post » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:05 pm


I'm guessing you aren't American based on the points you are making and have some bias against the United States.



edit: and as another said above me, Massachusetts is one of the leading innovators in the entirety of the World. Oh but they "Haven't achieved anything since the tea party"

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Post » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:57 am


I'm not American nor into American history, but this is America. Who's history should they feature? Marsian history?



The whole Fallout series is a parody on 50ies America. Starting with the dress code, the posters, the patriotic duck and cover feel, down to history and it's icons.

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Roberto Gaeta
 
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Post » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:38 am


1) The game is set in the US.



2) Boston is one of the most histsorically significant cities/regions in the US.



So, yeah, what they've done is as relevant as the Smithsonian in DC and The Strip in New Vegas.

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Joie Perez
 
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Post » Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:41 pm

To be fair the Mojave was bashed for being a desert

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Post » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:22 pm


Exactly. Doesn't mean we're opposed to seeing the FO universe go to different places. In time, my good OP. In time.

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Pawel Platek
 
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Post » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:52 pm

Funny OP, how that American History you complain about was only brought about by British Royalty being overbearing with the colonists, until they got understandably fed up with it.



The Minutemen fighting off the Redcoats for our independence from them is a proud part of our heritage. We're not going to just forget it, no matter whom is bored of hearing it.



That mindset is a big part of what keeps us strong. Even through all that though, we don't forget that our people come from many nations, and much of our strength is in our diversity too.

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Post » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:57 am

A six crank laser musket is pretty awesome.

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Charles Mckinna
 
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Post » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:43 pm

I'm hoping for a rendition of this in the DLC.

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Rob Davidson
 
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Post » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:15 pm

Only if you can crank it 6 times. :)

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Steeeph
 
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Post » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:07 am

I wouldn't mind leaving the US as dlc but the main story and game should be set in America imo.

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Post » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:00 am

it was more than that. Boston was in a way the Athens of the Americas. A lot of the ideas and notions of liberty and self determination started and grew there. Most of the colonies outside of new England were quite happy being British colonies. The ideas they had were very unique and unheard of in a world still dominated by monarchs and empires.
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Post » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:21 am

I really did not read the whole thread.


All i can say:


- The plot is in the former USA. I didn't expect chinese history.


- I'm glad the story isn't located at my place, germany. Our history, at the time that i went to school, was hammered so hard into our brains that i lost interest in history altogether. Only now, closing in to 50, i regained interest and find it really inspiring. All those mistakes noone learned from...



But on a sidenote (and really offtopic):


I felt really funny about calling the germans "cowards" when it got hot in the middle east and we didn't sent troops.. when we:


a) weren't prepared for it (because we weren't allowed by the allies to have more than a small defensive army before)


B) had no evidence of what big brother tried to sell us (which was only lies)


c) we had no personal interest in it (which is the only reason for the US to intervene anywhere)


I'm not a communist, not anti US, no antisemite.... just before someone tries to get the Nazi club out on me ;)


I have learned the lesson of history... sadly most of the worlds most important leaders didn't.

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Post » Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:31 am


Kind of pointless to say, when they didn't know how good life could be until they tasted true freedom. The biggest part of oppression is the deception of politics. It can cloud the judgement of those subject to it.



I don't see anyone in America now looking back and saying we'd be better off if we were still under British rule, so let's not kid ourselves about that. The single most common thread that binds us is our love of freedom.

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Post » Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:39 am

You'd be surprised. Also depends on your definition of "freedom".

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Post » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:52 pm


Seriously? Look at how even England itself is structured politically now, vs how it was back then. It doesn't take a genius to see that even their own people got fed up with their stuffy, greedy Royal Family, and now they're just a tourist side show.



It's not about a person's definition of freedom, it's about a well written constitution and a justice system that supports it, key of which is the right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness".



I'm never "surprised" at what causes the delusion of those subject to the whims of royalty, I'm a realist.

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Post » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:52 pm

Most of this thread is just taking potshots at the OP like we're back on the playground. Now that politics is getting into the mix its time to close this.
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