You make no sense since people are wasting money on this game the way it is. All i'm saying is add more content to make it better, never said make it a clone.

I don't like clash of clans. so no comments. And yes. This game could of been so much more. more contents.

Nope, the current structure does not require you to spend money opposing to other games outlined, you can easily get lunchboxes from objectives and there is no rush, since there is no PvP and you don't have to worry about improving your vault in the shortest possible time or buying a "base shield" for real money. You can buy lunchboxes to make the game easier, but there is no point really, since it is enjoyable as it is. In short, I also want the game to have more depth and a social aspect, but without PvP, that's the difference.

By the way it would be very interesting to know how many people want PvP and how many don't:)

yeah because the top grossing pvp games revolve their whole pay2win gimmick around the pvp, , allowing people to pay for speedup to speed their armies to march on their victims bases, paying to have uber items to more easily victimize the people around them, putting timers on everything from upgrades to troop training and then allowing people to pay to bypass the times..

and then having weak players forced to pay for anti-pvp shield just to protect themself for 6 hours from all the big fish farming them..


they are designed to have you pay, and pay and pay and pay and pay forever, ad infinitum, in perpetuity, for all eternity, in the entire universe, until the end of time.


clash of clans and game of war:fire age are the most disgusting sleazy apps in the app store and i don't understand how they are so popular ( i understand how game of war jumped up there, its all the big briasted lady warrior ads on tv, internet, mobile devices, youtube etc......people are sheep)

Yes, game of war only does well because of Kate Upton *Rolls eyes*. They have a lot of good ideas, let's be honest here. What bethesda has right now is only the building portion of their games. Nothing else. The fact that you guys actually believe Fallout Shelter is better than those games shows your fan boyism. Yes those game are cash cows but they are still 1000x ahead in content than Fallout Shelter.

i tend to agree, the game is shallow.

all you do is collect resources,fight fires, fight radroaches, build one of 5 different rooms, fight fires, fight raiders, breed dwellers, fight fires, fight radroaches, collect resources, fight fires, fight raiders, build rooms, fight fires, fight radroaches, collect resources, train stats, fight fires, fight raiders...or send people out exploring and watch flavor text scroll by.


the exploring aspesct is the only part that has any depth to it.


yeah, i mentioned fighting...a lot, because the incidents happen so frequently, it just gets irritating. watching people spend upwards of 60-90 seconds fighting a fire is no fun, the radroaches at least can be sort of fun to watch people shoot them. but i'm getting tired of seeing radroaches all the time. radroaches that scale with the players...( good old fashioned bethesda style mobflation FTW)

how about instead of mobflating the radroaches, what about mole rats, bloatflies, ghouls, super mutants...?

it would be interesting if they had melee weapons in the game, and then tied the different weapons to different stats, like strength for melee weapons and perception for guns, put some more variety

i didnt say fallout shelter is better than those, i said i don't understand how those are the #1 apps


i was really hoping this game would be better, but why are all mobile games "tap and wait"


what would have been awesome is if they made a 2D side scrolling action rpg mobile fallout game with an open world, item collecting, and such.

They are number one because they cater to the majority of what Mobile Gamers (gamers with money) want. It's called Supply and Demand.

i played clash of clans,


it's tap and wait.

collect resources

wait hours

upgrade bulding

wait hours

train troops

wait hours

attack someone

get slaughtered

train troops

wait hours

attack someone

win

train more troops

wait hours

collect resources

wait hours

upgrade building

wait hours


and then every time you log off, you come back to a ransacked base, no matter how well defended it is, someone always gets through and destroys everything. and it never shows you a replay of how they did it. i attack a base and get slaughtered, then i set my base up the same way, log off, within 5 minutes, it's destroyed...


i admit, i have not played game of war

game of war looks like another one of those "tap and wait 4x strategy games" where you

tap a building to upgrade

wait hours

collect resources

wait hours

train troops

wait hours

send troops marching toward a target

wait hours for a text message whether they succeeded or not

wait hours.

log of

get farmed by bigger players...


or pay to bypass all the timers, and pay and pay and pay, pay to get more troops, pay to get uber items...i already said all this...

Well that is your POV. But I guess i have a different view of my time spent on those games. I talked to a lot of cool people, teamed up with other players to do raids, forged alliances, had epic battles. I'm not saying those games aren't without flaws, yes those wait times svcks but those are things bethesda doesn't have to carry over.

like i said earlier, i would have loved it if bethesda instead of following mobile game trends and creating yet another skinner box, if they made this into 2d side scrolling open world rpg adventure, with a story like their console games and no microtransactions. i would have paid for that.

the most impressive feature to me is when i zoom in to the rooms, they have a kind of 3d effect going on there where the dwelers move into the background and foreground and parallax scrolling to reveal features not immediately visible otherwise.

if they had a 2d adventer game and let you explore that way...but something like that would require effort, and a money investment.

i see this ame as a cash grab and an advertisemant for fallout4, they released it right around the time they announced fallout 4 and i admit, i really want to buy fallout 4 when it comes out, i always liked fallout better than elder scrolls.


if they had ported the first 2 fallout games to ios, instead of this, i probably would have bought them.

i realize the first 2 games are not bethesda games, but they could get the rights to them, no?

i' m sure if the ipad can handle baldurs gate, it can handle fallout 1 and 2

The radiation symbol in the bottom left corner of the main menu is a button that takes you to Fallout 4 site.

they are number 1 because they understand the skinner box psychology and how to manipulate people and exploit addictive behavior.

its the same technique casinos use to get people to gamble.


i guess i lied when i said i don't understand how those became #1...apparently i do understand.


I mean clash of clans is not even an original idea, its a clone of facebook's backyard monsters...which is probably a clone of so ething else. kabam also had a similar game called edgeworld. and several other companies had a clone as well.


theres really only like 5 different games in the app store

endless runners

match 3

tap and wait builders

tap and wait 4x strategy

tap and wait pseudo rpgs...

some devs combine the genres creatively


there are also a handful of roguelikes and tower defense but thats pretty much it, you played one you played them all.

they also have some girly dress up games, and then there's that kim kardashian game *shudder*...i wonder if kaitlyn is gonna have a cameo(she looks way better than kim lol)