The PC gamers on Steam in the Fallout 4 Survival Mode beta test will be reporting the Crashes to Desktop (CTD's) how and where they get them.

Bethesda Game Studios will hopefully fix as many of them as they can.

People are already reporting the conditions of their CTDs. They'll hopefully fix as many of them as they can, but the simple fact that we're saying "hopefully they'll fix as many of them as they can" provides further support for making this optional in my opinion. Fallout 3 has been totally patched and I still experience an occasional crash of sorts. The game minimizes itself randomly on occasion (which is a pretty well known issue) and the only way of fixing it is to completely close out the game and fire it back up. It happens, and if past experience provides any kind of indication, it will continue to happen. I want survival mode to make things harder for my character, not more frustrating for me.

I'm still yet to understand how giving us an option is going to change anything for you. Seriously, I just don't understand this. If you want to save only when sleeping, then by all means check that box. For the rest of us (the majority of us, for that matter), who do not want this option, we will check the other box. You get it your way. We get it our way. Everybody is happy. This seems like a pretty solid move by my reckoning.

Yeah, really, really not liking the limited save feature. That's not survival. That's just annoyance. It's also unrealistic (And I use that term very loosely with this game) and unimmersive.

Using Corvega factory as an example. There are only a couple of sleeping areas in there. One upstairs at the boss and one in the dead end area with the power armor station. So, I slog my way through to the PA station and before I tackle the rest of the place. i sleep, I put my head down for an hour and sleep in a hostile location where technically someone should be wandering in to find out what all the noise was. They'll find everyone dead and me, asleep and an easy target.

That breaks my immersion, so I don't know why people are slinging around the idea that it is some sort of immersive, survival feature.

As for those that have said, 'just turn down the difficulty when you want to save' For all we know once we start this mode, we might be locked in. And what about the achievements? If I remember correctly, with New Vegas, if you changed out of hardcoe mode at anytime you lost the chance to get the achievement on that play-through even if you changed it back.

Technically, it's not going to change anything for Ballowers100 as he doesn't even own the game nor has he played it apparently, but he does feel it's necessary to tell everyone else how to play.

I'm not telling people how to play.

I don't care how other people play at all. I just don't like some features the way they are added or not added in video games and I criticize them strongly.

It's just the way I would like to play.

Wait, what? Wow, okay then. I won't be taking anything seriously from Ballowers100 on this topic anymore if they haven't even played the game.

Why are you spending so much time discussing a game that you haven't even played? Why are you arguing against adding an optional measure to prevent losing progress from crashes in a game that you have never even played? You do not have any valid opinions on this mode in Fallout 4 if you have never even played Fallout 4.

I think I do have valid opinions to critisize even though I haven't purchased Fallout 4 yet.

I can still enjoy reading about video games and what they have which I have been with in the franchise for a long time can't I?

I have every right to be displeased.

If you haven't played the game, then you haven't had a chance to experience the actual reasons for the argument we're posing. Many of us have had numerous bugs and CTDs. You've never played the game. You have no first hand experience either for or against the argument we're making with this specific game.

I'm still yet to understand why you would be displeased that those of us who want the option would have it. Seriously, please answer this question. How does my having an option change your game experience at all? In what possible way would it make you enjoy the game less?


Again, we are not arguing that this mode should be removed. We're arguing that it should be an option, and specifically to help circumvent bugs and CTDs. What possible argument do you have against this? You keep making all kinds of claims about how bad it would be and how unhappy you'd be, but you're yet to really say why you'd be so unhappy about everyone getting to play the game the way that they want to play it.

If there are toggable options I wouldn't be displeased with them at all.

The purpose of the way that it's set up is the way the Bethesda Game Studios employees want to play Fallout 4 with the Survival Mode. It's their creation and their vision.

I also would like to see Bethesda Game Studios developed video games be the unique ones from all other video games that are developed or in development now.

Bethesda Game Studios developed video games are unique anyways.

It wouldn't make me enjoy playing their video games less either if people have togglable options.

You have to read through and through my comments to understand, the way I criticize features the way they are added and not added in Bethesda Game Studios developed video games.