Ememies don't react : IV

» Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:08 am

With my modded Oblivion, I realize, that some enemies don't react at me.

Only when I want to speak to the Bandits for Example, the Bandit start to figt:

Can anyone help?

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00  Oblivion.esm
01  Jog_X_Mod.esm
02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.36]
03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]
04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]
05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.37]
06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.8b1]
07  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]
08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
09  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]
0A  Artifacts.esm
0B  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.4a]
0C  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0D  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0E  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.8]
0F  Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp  [Version 5.0]
10  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [Version 5.0]
11  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
12  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
13  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [Version 5.0]
++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
14  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
15  Fran Armor Add-on.esp
16  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.36]
17  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.36]
++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]
18  Storms & Sound.esp
19  WindowLightingSystem.esp
1A  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.9]
1B  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.7]
1C  RAEVWD Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.9]
1D  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
1E  Streamline 3.1.esp
1F  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]
20  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.9.3]
21  DLCHorseArmor.esp
22  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
23  DLCOrrery.esp
24  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
25  DLCVileLair.esp
26  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
**  Lair_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
**  VileLair_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
27  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
28  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
**  Mehrunes_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
29  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
2A  DLCSpellTomes - OBSEfixer.esp
2B  DLCThievesDen.esp
2C  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.14]
2D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.13]
**  ThievesDen_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
2E  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]
++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
2F  ExnemRuneskulls.esp
++  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
30  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
31  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
32  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
33  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]
34  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
35  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.37]
++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]
++  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - No Daedric Items.esp
**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]
36  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]
37  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
38  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb8b1]
++  FCOM_EntropicOrderhardcoe.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
39  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8]
3A  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_SpawnRatesStronger.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
3B  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b7]
3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
40  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
41  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]
42  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]
++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 1.0]
++  FCOM_ArcheryArmamentarium.esp  [Version 2]
++  FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp  [Version 1]
**  FCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.esp  [Version 1]
43  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creatures Expansion.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - RadiantAITweaks.esp
**  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
44  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
45  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  MMM4OOO&FCOM- Slofs Horse & DLC Armor.esp
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]
++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]
46  Artifacts.esp
++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]
47  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp  [Version 3.0]
++  Kvatch Rebuilt Fixes.esp
48  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
49  thievery.esp
4A  thievery - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]
4B  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
4C  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.12]
**  Battlehorn_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
4D  DLCFrostcrag.esp
4E  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]
4F  Knights.esp
50  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.8]
**  Knights_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
**  DLC_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
51  Blood&Mud.esp
52  Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]
53  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
54  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
55  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
56  xulTheHeath.esp
57  xulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
58  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
59  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
5A  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]
5B  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]
5C  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.5]
5D  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
5E  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]
5F  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
60  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
61  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
62  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
63  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
64  xulPantherRiver.esp
65  Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp
66  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
67  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
68  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]
69  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
6A  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
6B  Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
6C  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp  [Version 2.0]
6D  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
6E  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
6F  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
70  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
71  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
72  OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
73  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
74  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
75  OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
76  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.2]
77  bartholm.esp
78  bartholm - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]
++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
79  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
7A  Storms & Sound - Bartholm.esp
7B  Storms & Sound - Blood&Mud.esp
7C  geomancy.esp
7D  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
7E  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
7F  OOOShiveringIsles.esp
80  OOOSI-Map MarkerOverhaul SI-patch.esp
++  OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp  [Version 1.33]
81  OblivionReloaded.esp
++  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Harvest Containers - SI.esp  [Version 0.99b]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.36]
82  OblivionReloadedArenaCombat.esp
83  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:05 am

Appears to me as AI Overload. How strong is your CPU? How many NPCs at one time have you set in your bashed patch?

» Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:17 am

My CPU is a 4,4 Ghz. Intel 3570, overclocked.

There is a set in the bashed patch?

Can you explain?

» Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:24 am

CPU power is unfortunately irrelevant because Oblivion was not designed to take advantage of the more advanced cores. Mainly because they didn't exist when they were developing the game.

There are mods/patches that address. I would start here: http://wiki.theassimilationlab.com/tescosi/Stabilization_and_Optimization

This one is standard: http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/45576/?

» Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:25 am

This is the magic of Oblivions game engine. It still works.

Other game engines would have crashed.

I would suggest the following.

Go to http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/41863/?site. Its an OBSE plugin. Install it.

Then make sure OSR is installed. With the Heap 6 replacement active, and the Framerate manager, max. fps set to 30.

If Wyre Bash is not installed, install it. Then play for about 10 minutes.

Quit. Open Wyre Bash and inspect the runtimeprofiler log. You will find it in the context menu (right mouse click), in the menu others / anolyse.

look at the .log file in your oblivion root folder, look at its size, and set the amount to inpect to the next full number, so the log is fully anolyzed.

Press 'anolyze". Then after the processing finished, sort the list, and look at the top runtime eaters.

If they are all very high, it is definitely your CPU not being fast enough.

The script engine WILL drastically lower your FPS, also your AI will get scheduled to nothing.

As far as I know the script engine utilizes only ONE core.

So be careful here.

In case you want to run 30 fps, each frame will have 33ms to process. this includes the graphic pipeline, not only the script engine.

Huge script lags will reduce the game to scheduling, loading and heating the CPU.

There is another tool on OblivionNexus which will let you see the average ms per frame, or you are able to see it yourself in the log file.

Some use excel-like programs to sort and anolyse the log.

PS:

Additionally I would drop Streamline, and use OR and OSR.