Dear Morrowind modding commuinity

Post » Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:44 pm

FORUMERS PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS REFERRING TO THE NEXUS SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY


Dear Morrowind modding community,


Hello, I have started my new project which will make npcs use the choice system, making the dialouge more like other rpgs, like Fallout 1 and 2: ?http://i.imgur.com/Fqf8Ffz.jpg%C2%A0


Now that that's said, there is something I would like to talk about, involving this year's Modathon contest which just ended. To say the least, I am slightly disturbed by the lack of feedback on some mods that you can tell had a lot of work put into them this past month. I feel that the existence of the contest has caused the average mod user to dismiss every mod this month under the thought that every mod released this month was just a jab at some grand prize, and that there was no work put into them. I want to express that this is not the case at all.


Personal example: I just released my first mod which I've been working on since February, (it wasn't even intended for Modathon at first it just happened), The Mysterious Hunter, at 5 am eastern time on the 29th/30th and since then it has gotten 18 total downloads and 2 endorsemants. But no comments despite asking for feedback TWICE in the description. "But you have two endorsemants" Yes, I do, but those 2 endorsemants don't tell me squat. I don't know if you really like it and if it is going to remain in your load order until the end of time or if there's a game breaking bug that I need to fix because I screwed something up at 3 in the morning or if you have a simple suggestion like "Hey I like your mod but here's how it could've done better: la la la example example". To put it bluntly, I don't know if I'm a good modder or not, and how I could improve in my future mods.


That's the entire point of the comment section, is to post feedback and give criticism of ANY AND ALL KINDS. I don't mind if you say my mod svcks, (as long as it's constructive) because it is feedback!


And to show that I'm not just tooting my own horn, there are others who released their very first mods that look like really good mods and they have little to none feedback!


As of 2:00 eastern time 6/2/2016 these first time modders in the month of May have little to none feedback on their mods:


Cave of Wonders by Lady Phoenix Fire Rose: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44344/?


Stashes of Vvardenfell by elderscrolliangamer: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44343/?


My mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44336/?


Shields on the back by kingofnordmar: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44325/?


Sweet Rest - The Vivec tearoom by Rashiel: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44320/?


Hair Pack for Bosmers Redone and Hair Pack for Nords Redone by Thurderan: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44308/? http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44307/?


Cave Player Home by KarlMidas: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44298/?


MCC Leveller and Quick Loot by mg979: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44294/? http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44258/?


Taller Male Nords, Fort Silvermoth- An imperial fort player home, and Pirates Grove by KingAlexanderIV: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44277/? http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44280/? http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44293/?


Improved Seyda Neen BETA by Arkar: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44290/?


Nyarlathotep by Rankless Corgi/Cow-o-war: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44284/?


Daedric Staff Enchanting Cap Increase by Xiianil: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44282/?


Race Adjustments - Precision and Portage by Aranai Ra: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44281/?


Lazy's Guild Rewards - Abilities by LazyPilots: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44270/?


Factor's Estate Redecorated by BitOfAZeldaFan: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44268/?



I understand if you are busy, I have two school projects left (even though there there's only 3 weeks of school left) before I can try these mods myself, but I will be going through these mods and trying them over the summer so I can give them my feedback and I ask you to as well.


Not calling anyone witches but as a "community" this is disturbing.


Thanks for reading and be safe,


Enclavekiller

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marina
 
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Post » Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:03 am

I know this is kind of bad news, but Morrowind community is very sparse and lack of feedback is generally a problem. If you really want feedback, I recommend you to create a release thread here on gamesas. It is still not guaranteed, there are mods I made threads about and I still have very little feeback on, but you should get something. Unfortunatelly, if you feel uncomfortable that noone commented on your mod for two days since release I afraid that modding for MW might not be for you. I do not mean to sound harsh or anything, just saying how it is. It took months before I got at least one comment for a mod released on Nexus.



Btw. a lot of people who go to Nexus do not come here, so if you mean it only for Nexus community, you should probably post it on their forums.

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Post » Sat Jun 04, 2016 1:53 am

Yeah, this is really the only place you get feedback anymore. Very occasionally I'll get a comment on a mod about a bug someone found, or a PM about one, but it's very rare anymore. If you want feedback and to actually interact with the modding community, this is the place. Also keep in mind that the majority of the people downloading and playing Morrowind mods are likely not modders themselves and may not even know this forum exists, they're just looking for stuff to add to their game and aren't there to be supportive or helpful to the modders. Not to say they don't care and don't appreciate what we do, I'm sure the majority of them do, they're just not in the mindset to pat us on the back.



It's also not really needed, I don't need a pat on the back to find bugs myself in my own playthroughs, or to motivate me to continue modding. I get that motivation all on my own. Yes, it's nice to get feedback and bug reports, but it's the nature of our rather small remaining active community.

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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:35 pm


I know Morrowind is very sparse, but I think it is something we as a "community" can improve on. Yes I made a release thread, which got no feedback other than my email being snipped out. Oops on my part. And I'm not really uncomfortable with it being two days with no feedback, I'm expecting some more downloads, endorsemants, feedback over time. Like you said, it takes months to get a simple comment and that is exactly the issue I wanted to address.



This post is an editied version of what I posted along with a picture on the Nexus: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/images/2670/?and I'm going to make a something on the forum side soon, I know it's kinda weird to post this on gamesas forums but I felt like I should've as well.



It's not just my mod that I care about, you can use those links I provided to get to other budding new modders who posted in the first week of May and didn't get any feedback. The reason why I posted this was because yea, people download your mods but I think it's a bit weird to not take 5 secs to say what your basic experience was like in a simple comment ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ENDORSE IT BUT YOU DON'T SAY WHY YOU ENDORSE IT.



And you're fine, I myself use brutal honesty all the time, and I'm glad you said what you said so I could address it.

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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:46 pm

The Nexus has always been slow and sparse with feedback, for Morrowind anyways.

Don't let it discourage you.


Making this thread has already got some new eyes on your mods. ;)

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Miragel Ginza
 
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:20 pm

What you're talking about is someting that most people already knew that Nexus isn't a Morrowind community site and before PES became a defunct site Nexus was considered to be an Oblivion modding site, which was before Skyrim came out Nov 11th 2011.



http://www.fliggerty.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5017 was more or less abandoned by IGN in April 2012 and in late Aug 2012 PES was no more, so that's probably the main reason why Morrowind modders doesn't get much feedback when a modder release a Morrowind mod on Nexus.



After Skyrim came out the Skyrim modding community *exploded* at Nexus and thousands mods were uploaded on Nexus, while other minor community sites like http://www.fliggerty.com/phpBB3/index.php got a very few Skyrim mods hosted.




Like the others said, posting a release thread here instead of only posting a release thread at Nexus, is your best chance to actually get feedback of your mods. :tes:

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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2016 6:25 pm

yeah ever since PES went offline, I've hardly gotten feedback for Morrowind mods anymore. That was definitely one of the most active communities of both modders and users, and there was constant back-and-forth. I had like 9 pages of comments on my PES post of Sobitur Facility, most of it just conversation about ideas, bugs, and future updates. It was a shame to lose PES for many reasons.

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Post » Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:04 am

Have you ever taken a look at the modding life of Trainwiz? You should. The guy is probably the most famous modder of Bethesda games, easily our biggest celebrity around here, and even he has failed to draw as much attention towards Sotha Sil Expanded, a mod he's supremely proud of (and for good reason), as has been earned by certain Skyrim and Fallout 4 mods that do nothing more than add Thomas the Tank Engine (and his friends) to said games. And even though SSE easily dwarfs a good 90% of MW mods in terms of feedback and endorsemants, which I'm sure you'll find irritating, you should read some of the feedback he gets, for all his mods, not just that one, and watch some of the videos of people playing his mods.



Basically what I'm saying is this: Be careful what you wish for.



P.S.: As someone who has spent almost a year watching Mod Town 2015, which has some seriously awesome stuff going on in it, struggle to get people excited, I take exception to anyone complaining about having similar problems after just a few days.

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Post » Sat Jun 04, 2016 3:22 am


This is pretty much how i feel too. My two mods received about four or five comments each in all the years they were on PES (and this was when the Morrowind modding scene was at the height of its activity). I'm not in the mood to be lectured to by someone who feels he hasn't gotten enough comments after only two days.

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