Me and Skyrim: Curse, Tremendous love, and Desperation (CTD) : V

» Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:50 pm

Me and Skyrim: a history of Curse, Tremendous love, and Desperation (CTD)

Hi Dovahkins. This is the situation:

1. I love Skyrim. Period. Desperately. I want to play it for my entire life.

2. I found an equilibrium. After months of trial and error, finally found my perfect combination of mods and visual tweaks. Now the game is gorgeous. I want to eat it.

3. I can't play 10 minutes without a random CTD

But... Let us step back! This is how I got to this awful status:

- I was happy and running all my mods, using unofficial patches, but I had constant freeze and CTD just in Riften (cfr http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1603130-constant-ctd/)

- So I decided to take action, since suggestion was that the unofficial patches are old and with no updates. So I disabled them, and switched to Unofficial legendary patch (the version of game I have)

- But I was constantly CTDing. So I switched back to unofficial single patches. But I was constantly CTDing again.

- Then I tried a save game cleaner. But the cleaned save gave me neverending loads, and other freezy freezes.

- so I decided to make the big leap, and tried Wrye bash. I followed an excellent guide, migrating from NMM to Wrye Bash. So I moved all my mods from the NMM folder to the proper wrye bash folder and pointed NMM to that folder. When I re-launched NMM, I was able to see my mods, but all the green checks (indicating what mods are enabled) were gone! Never mind.

- then I disabled unofficial patches again and re-enabled unofficial legendary patch (following the step by step guide). Finally I created a bashed patch (my first bashed patch! Oh it was like my other first time...yes, a disaster).

Now, when I play, what is the final result? Guess? --> CTDs. A lot of. And also freezes, I don't want to miss them.

I tried, on the wave of desperation, to switch back to unofficial single patches, but the bashed esp won't allow me to do that: when I load a game it crashes.

Now, what are my chances to ever get a playable and stable Skyrim?

And, what are the suggested steps to reach that elysium?

Thanks.

Max

Load order:

Spoiler

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

3 3 HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

6 6 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

7 7 NewStyleEyes.esm

8 8 3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm

9 9 EFFCore.esm

10 a Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

11 b ApachiiHair.esm

12 c ApachiiHairFemales.esm

13 d Nock2Tip.esm

14 e TravellersOfSkyrim.esm

15 f GeneralStores.esm

16 10 Unique Region Names.esp

Skyrim bigger trees.esp

RichMerchants.esp

Animated Weapon Enchants.esp

SoundPropagationOverhaul.esp

17 11 fantasy music overhaul.esp

18 12 fantasy music overhaul - no vanilla music.esp

19 13 WATER.esp

20 14 Smoking Torches.esp

21 15 Moss Rocks.esp

22 16 RLO - Major City Exteriors - No Guard Torches.esp

23 17 Bounty Gold.esp

24 18 Beards.esp

25 19 Rainbows.esp

26 1a Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

27 1b TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp

28 1c 3DNPC.esp

29 1d Book Covers Skyrim.esp

30 1e Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

SoS - The Wilds.esp

SoS - Civilization.esp

31 1f Birdsofskyrim.esp

32 20 Prides of Skyrim.esp

33 21 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

SoS - The Dungeons.esp

34 22 imperial officer armor.esp

35 23 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

36 24 NPC_Overhaul_V_2_.esp

SoS - The Dungeons-PatchSPO.esp

37 25 Brows.esp

HearthfireMultiKid.esp

38 26 Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp

39 27 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

40 28 Immersive Weapons.esp

41 29 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

multifollowerlite.esp

Essential followers - all followers.esp

42 2a 3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp

43 2b AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

44 2c Dr_Bandolier.esp

45 2d VioLens.esp

46 2e Convenient Horses.esp

47 2f EFFDialogue.esp

48 30 UIExtensions.esp

SoS - The Wilds-PatchSPO.esp

SoS - Civilization-PatchSPO.esp

GR - Contrast Saturation Boost.esp

SaturationBoost.esp

49 31 mintylightningmod.esp

50 32 balanceddestructionv4.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

Better distant LOD waterfalls V1.esp

51 33 MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp

52 34 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

CityForestV2_6.esp

Crimson Tide - Blood.esp

53 35 Kynesguard.esp

TownsAndCitiesEnhanced.esp

54 36 L0S and TaVE patch.esp

55 37 High Hrothgar Suite Pool.esp

56 38 Cloaks.esp

DragonbornEstate.esp

57 39 SFO - Dragonborn.esp

58 3a Tame Beast.esp

59 3b Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp

60 3c High Hrothgar Interior and Lights.esp

Legna da Ardere - Esploratore.esp

61 3d Nock2Tip.esp

Legna da Ardere - Turista.esp

Legna da Ardere - Guardiaboschi.esp

62 3e Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

Unbelievable Grass.esp

Logical Grass.esp

SofiaFollower.esp

63 3f CommunityCollege.esp

64 40 fantasy music overhaul - unique town music.esp

65 41 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

66 42 HH exterior smithy.esp

treehouse.esp

67 43 isilNarsil.esp

68 44 SignTown_by_YURIL_1o5.esp

69 45 draugrweap_standa_en.esp

AKHHAlternateRoute.esp

70 46 Ish's Souls to Perks.esp

71 47 RevampedExteriorFog.esp

RLO - Adaptive Interiors Vanilla Weathers Patch.esp

72 48 TrueStorms.esp

73 49 TrueStorms-RLO.esp

74 4a Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

75 4b AMatterOfTime.esp

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp

76 4c Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp

77 4d DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp

78 4e TorchArrow-Dawnguard.esp

79 4f LOHS.esp

80 50 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

81 51 SkyUI.esp

Open Cities Skyrim.esp

82 52 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:31 pm

Using ENB series? Texture replacers? Might be a place to start. Just disable enb and rename the textures and meshes folders. At least see if the CTDs stop.

» Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:02 pm

mind posting a dxdiag as well?

» Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:24 am

It looks like you have the individual unofficial patches along with Usleep. I do not know if that would cause issues.

» Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:14 am

Hi

I have disabled the single unofficial patches plugins from NMM load order. This is not enough? Do I have to dis install them completely?

» Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:13 am

Up.

Maybe I was too ironic and this post did not get much attention.

I'll be more straight to the point. I need your kind help to solve my issues. Here:

1. I have random ctd in the wilds and 1 fixed ctd when I approach the stable area near riften where kahjit are. Always.

2. I have freezes when I combat, and specifically it appears to happen when sort of spells are used. But not systematically.

What can I do?

Could you help me with troubleshooting?

Is there a way to control logs and scripts to check if scripts are a problem?

What I did so far did not help, bashed patch and whatever.

Thanks.

» Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:19 pm

Please read the previous posts and answer to the best of your ability. DXdiag: http://help.ea.com/en/article/how-to-gather-dxdiag-information/

Please use spoiler tags when posting the dxdiag. In the edit window, click the green and white button located to the left of the Font dropdown box.

The special bbcode button. Select spoiler from the dropdown and paste the entire dxdiag in the textbox.

» Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:21 am

The bashed patch needs to be rebuilt each time you change something in your load order -that is, moving plugins up/down and adding/removing plugins. That's No1.

No2: Either you'll use the individual -and outdated- unofficial patches, or the unofficial skyrim legendary edition patch (USLEEP). The latter is obviously the recommended way to go.

No3: Your CTDs, freezes, etc are caused by either the machine you're running Skyrim on (which can't be determined until you post a dxdiag, as suggested already) or Skyrim itself, hitting it's limits. In case of the latter:

Assuming you use skse (skyrim script extender), find/make a file named SKSE.ini in your ./Steam/steamapps/common/Skyrim/Data/SKSE folder. If the folder does't exist, you create it as well. In there, you add the following:


[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

There are additional steps that may need to be taken, if you use ENB (which you propably do). But we'll talk about it, once you've posted your dxdiag.

PS: I really hope you've done what you've done on a test save and not a main character. In case of the latter and if you don't have any previous saves, all this going back and forth between unofficial patches, using them both together and using a save cleaner on top, has almost certainly destroyed it.