Ancient nords don't believe in daggers, maces or warhammers?

Post » Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:46 am

Why is that? Something in ancient nordic tradition forbiding these weapons?

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helen buchan
 
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Post » Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:07 am

Oversight. There's a dragon priest dagger though.
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Adam Kriner
 
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Post » Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:07 am

Maces or warhammers? I've seen nords whipping their maces out. :D
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Post » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:46 am

Not so much daggers but Nords are one of the races most likely to use a heavy arsenal of weapons and armor. Their culture and society embraces fighting with pure melee style combat and Nords are renown weapon smiths.
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Post » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:07 am

The thing is that you find the Ancient weapons being wielded by draugr, and they have issues with blunt weapons that endanger their brittle bones.



In the older games in the series (Daggerfall at least) skeletal enemies had resistance to sharps, but weakness to blunts. The draugr are those guys brought back to (un)life.

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Post » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:26 am

It's a shame that this was on oversight really. To me, a Nord is mostly renowned for using a battle axe or war hammer...


These Draugr are ancient Nords of old... The kinsman of Ysgrammor... The brothers of Tongues...
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Post » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:02 am

If anything, it would be an oversight if they were included. Listen to Garothmuk gro-Muzgub from Suran. Not all weapons were ubiquitous in the historical cultures of TES. Maces and warhammers are a product of knightly traditions, which ancient Skyrim didn't have.



"Heavy two-handed hammers were developed in the West to counter the defensive protection of the heavily armored Western knight. The iron warhammer has a single head with a balancing spike to penetrate plate armor. The steel warhammer, on the other hand, has two heavy heads, and is designed to batter or knock down an armored opponent."



"The mace is a favored weapon of the Western knight, combined with a standard shield. Dwemer and Daedric maces, superb weapons, but expensive and rare, are prized heirlooms of the Dunmer Great House nobility."




Now daggers are another story:



"Every culture produces some variant on the short multi-purpose weapon called the dagger. Dagger weapons differ dramatically in quality and effectiveness; they are further differentiated by a wide variety of enchantments commonly placed on these easily concealed weapons. Daedric and glass daggers are shockingly efficient weapons, despite their small size and low mass."



In theory, there should be ancient Nordic daggers. But there are, it's just that the only around are the Dragon priests' daggers. Presumably soldiers and hunter relied upon other types of weapons and they weren't as important as concealed weapons because knowing Nords, it was acceptable to walk around everywhere with an axe. There'd little point in giving daggers to draugr at any rate.

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Post » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:37 pm

Good post on the lore, Quirky, except the bolded part seems to be inaccurate:







Whereas the Steel warhammers actually have a balancing spike like the Iron, as does every warhammer except Dwarven, Dragonbone, and Stalhrim (though one could argue the Stalhrim has somewhat of a spike or point of sorts). Other than unique weps like Volundrang, the only one of the standard warhammers that "has two heavy heads, and is designed to batter or knock down an armored opponent" is the Dwarven, not the Steel.



http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Weapons

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Post » Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:14 am

The quote was from an NPC in Morrowind, a smith and expert armorer. The steel warhammer in Morrowind is double-headed.

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Post » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:20 pm

I'm still waiting for the Nordic chaingun

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Post » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:01 pm



Ah...umm...woops! :wallbash: Well I never played Morrowind so...no wonder "...from Suran" didn't strike any bells with me.



Carry on!

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Post » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:24 am

Sure. :) It's an interesting bit of lore, though, and consistent, apart from the change in the shape of the hammers between games, that the eastern provinces favored edged weapons.

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Post » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:45 am

So was the http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Iron_Warhammer_(Morrowind) (which was actually just a wooden warhammer with iron bands around it) in TES III.



There were a lot of very minor weapon mistakes or oversights in that game.

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Post » Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:20 am



Yes it's some interesting lore and quite appreciated if I hadn't have gotten it screwed up with Skyrim lore. D:

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