Well it is.


I don't think Lorkhan is independently sentient anymore. (The other Aedra aren't entirely together either, but are better off than the scarab)

He exists as a rebounding series of echoes as the world continually mimics the being that masterminded it. Pelinal, Wulfharth, Talos.... It's not even relevant that he isn't there to watch it all.

Who/what is the Scarab? Oh, wait: http://www.imperial-library.info/fsg/darthbladearticle1.shtml says that the Scarab is the Numidium. Yeah, the Aedra are better off than that! :hehe:

Wait, I misread that footnote (darn clauses...), okay, so, I don't know what the Scarab is...

the scarab is Lorkhan

Sorry, the Scarab is one of Lorkhan's symbols. The Dunmer called him The Scarab once or twice.

Lorkhan is also probably considered a scarab in the Ancient Egyptian sense:

"The image of the scarab, conveying ideas of transformation, renewal, and resurrection, is ubiquitous in ancient Egyptian religious and funerary art." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dung_beetle#Scarab_in_Ancient_Egypt

Think MK confirmed he's the Scarab. And you just did then.

There is also a Walking Way called "The Scarab that Transforms into the New Man." Though I'm not too sure we've reached a consensus about who has done that, though I've seen several guess that it's Mankar.

So he's basically just a spectator?

Nah, Lorkhan has affected history more than the Divines with his actions.

If I'm reading the above posts correctly...he incarnates as mortals that greatly impact the History of Nirn?

Yeah, Lorkhan bounces all over the place.

i see yall continued the party without me so what did i miss

Wonder where he'll show up next

in my closet but seriously i have no idea

It was more of an academic social gathering of intellectuals discussing the implications of mythopoeia and whether or not the Sermons need to be true, both literally and spiritually, in order to be important to the fabric of existence and the past and future of Morrowind.

Not that you'd understand. Did you bring whiskey, by chance?

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EDIT: In retrospect, I totally focused on the overly cruel sarcasm (sorry ace, it's all in good fun) and forgot to make my post.

I've always thought that the Sermons, and therefore Vehk's claimed deeds within them, don't need to be true because, through his apotheosis, Vehk fundamentally changed the mythic fabric of the universe so that, at least mythopoeically, they DID happen and DID leave ramifications of some sort. See his comments on the matter in the Trial of Vivec.

In other words, in the current timeline (if you want to call it that, although it's a crude term), Vivec really WAS the sun of a netchman's wife and a dreugh or whatever such nonsense and did do all the miraculous deeds attributed to him because he was ALWAYS a god. However, time has not always been like that, and there was once a previous existence that is no more (but may be once again) where he was but a poet of great ambition who betrayed his friend's trust and killed him in the pursuit of power.

i brung a 40 oz for me and thank god i wasnt here i would be more confused than i am now but seriously

As the Dwemeri representation of the birthsign The Steed.


http://www.imperial-library.info/astro/#A6

*Points to his edit above*

Hope that clears it up for you somewhat, since i elaborated on it a bit more. Perhaps someone more eloquent (and with more sleep) could explain it to you better, and more correctly now that I think about it.

im not a reading kind of person ill read eagar allen poe but thats it ok im going to have it closed and thank you for you insight