Morag Tong

Post » Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:21 pm

Considering the current political climate of Skyrim, and assuming the Morag Tong has been active in Tamriel, could it have a place here?
I am guessing we will have guilds.
Perhaps the Dark Brotherhood could also be used, as the dissenter group, and those seeking power would use either depending on their political standing or status.
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Melly Angelic
 
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:18 am

Dark Brotherhood and the Morag Tong are rivals, so If both are included in skyrim that could be interesting.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:20 am

Dark Brotherhood and the Morag Tong are rivals, so If both are included in skyrim that could be interesting.

it would i will side with the brother hood
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:39 pm

Whether the Morag Tong will be in Skyrim (due to lore, developers, etc) is to be seen.

But it would be amazing to have both the Morag Tong and Dark Brotherhood in the game, in which you can join either faction. What with them being sworn enemies, could be very interesting indeed.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:44 pm

It wouldn't require too much drama to have them included. Morrowind borders Skyrim and there's a lot that can happen in such a large amount of time that could drive the Morag Tong into Skyrim. But I think it's more likely(or atleast as likely) that we'll see a completely different group native to Skyrim to fill that role.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:24 pm

The Morag Tong is a lawful (only in Morrowind, not the rest of the empire) assassination guild, the Dark Brotherhood is a group of outlaw dissenters from the guild. For obvious reasons, they hate each other. Would make for some very interesting story lines between them. If both are added, hopefully we can pick which one we join.

Edit: I heard somewhere that Morrowind is invading Skyrim. Any one else confirm that I'm either right or insane?
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Post » Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:28 pm

Edit: I heard somewhere that Morrowind is invading Skyrim. Any one else confirm that I'm either right or insane?


Morrowind can't invade Skyrim because Morrowind no longer exists at time of TES5. Infernal City (which has been oficially confirmed as canon) revealed that Morrowind is no more.

On-topic, if Skyrim conquered some of former western Morrowind (which is quite possible), there is a chance that Morag Tong survived and its predecessor now acts in Skyrim. However I doubt they would be a lawful organization... tough they would probably be "honorable" assassins unlike Dark Brotherhood.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:02 pm

Morrowind can't invade Skyrim because Morrowind no longer exists at time of TES5. Infernal City (which has been oficially confirmed as canon) revealed that Morrowind is no more.



not true. MW is still there
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:38 am

The Morag Tong were a legally sanctioned group of assassins unique to Morrowind. The Dark Brotherhood is the undercover assassin group of Tamriel as a whole, really. Morrowind no longer exists. I highly doubt they would be in Skyrim.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:23 am

Just going by the Wiki, they were sanctioned by the Empire, so perhaps they could have been active elsewhere, lawfully.
maybe?
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:06 pm

not true. MW is still there

No, it isn't. Vvardenfell's was an uninhabitable, boiling pit (may have been inhabited by Argonians by now) and the mainland was conquered by Argonians.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:56 am

The Morag Tong were a legally sanctioned group of assassins unique to Morrowind. The Dark Brotherhood is the undercover assassin group of Tamriel as a whole, really. Morrowind no longer exists. I highly doubt they would be in Skyrim.
I agree with you, and I didn't like the Morag Tong because their legally sanctioned activities meant that they didn't need to be an undercover assassination group. They wandered into places, did the business, and pvssyd with the guards. There's got to be a more interesting way to kill people.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:00 pm

I agree with you, and I didn't like the Morag Tong because their legally sanctioned activities meant that they didn't need to be an undercover assassination group. They wandered into places, did the business, and pvssyd with the guards. There's got to be a more interesting way to kill people.

On that note, however, I definitely want Skyrim's Dark Brotherhood to be a bit different from the two past versions seen, just to keep things fresh. I want them to still be undercover with the Night Mother being the focus, but I want their belief system and preferred decorating style to be a bit different from both Daggefall's and Oblivion's.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:27 pm

On that note, however, I definitely want Skyrim's Dark Brotherhood to be a bit different from the two past versions seen, just to keep things fresh. I want them to still be undercover with the Night Mother being the focus, but I want their belief system and preferred decorating style to be a bit different from both Daggefall's and Oblivion's.
I'm definitely up for that.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:49 pm

I agree with you, and I didn't like the Morag Tong because their legally sanctioned activities meant that they didn't need to be an undercover assassination group. They wandered into places, did the business, and pvssyd with the guards. There's got to be a more interesting way to kill people.

I always appreciated that take on the writs though. I mean, OB explored some interesting ways to kill people, but at the same time the Morag Tong are more a group of public executor agents and I have not really seen them as the secretive type. Sneaky, perhaps, but not secretive. They fit very well into MW, especially compared to how an undercover agency might have fit.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:14 am

I'm definitely up for that.

I don't have any specific ideas, in mind. I just want it changed a bit. If the book is true, then the Mages Guild no longer exists and if it fell, I would expect the Fighters Guild to do the same. I just thought the Dark Brotherhood, despite not being tied to the empire, should get a bit of a facelift as I hope those other two are. Plus, the Dark Brotherhood seemed to get quite a bit of a facelift between Daggerfall and Oblivion, anyway.
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Post » Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:48 pm

No, it isn't. Vvardenfell's was an uninhabitable, boiling pit (may have been inhabited by Argonians by now) and the mainland was conquered by Argonians.


So MW is still there. Most of the cities are destroyed, and Argonians control the land. But the land is still there.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:21 am

Well, apparently everyone fled from Morrowind to Solstheim, so it's possible that some may have fled to Skyrim instead.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:43 am

not true. MW is still there



No, it isn't. Vvardenfell's was an uninhabitable, boiling pit (may have been inhabited by Argonians by now) and the mainland was conquered by Argonians.



So MW is still there. Most of the cities are destroyed, and Argonians control the land. But the land is still there.

I think you guys are kind of lost in transition

anyway it would be pretty epic if that were true I'm a Dark Brotherhood really devoted fan so it would be very intriguing playing as either faction
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:03 am

Since the Dark Brotherhood was king everywhere except Morrowind, and basically all life on Vvardenfell was destroyed, I'd say it's highly likely the Morag Tongis dissolved.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:08 am

Since the Morag Tong mostly operates in Morrowind, I wouldn't be surprised if they're no longer around after that province went the way of Fallout on us, but maybe they could have migrated along with the Dunmer refugees that left in time to avoid that fate, in which case, I suppose they could have set up business in another province, in which case, I suppose it's not entirely impossible that they'll appear in Skyrim, possibly presenting a rival faction to the Dark Brotherhood, but I wouldn't count on it. And even if they do appear in some form, they may not be able to operate as they did in Morrowind, because the Morag Tong, as seen in Morrowind, was also a product of the local society and culture, if they set up shop in Skyrim, they'd likely have to change their ways somewhat to fit in, if their business could catch on as well. After all, since the Dark Brotherhood is pretty wide spread, I'd imagine they're in Skyrim, too, and I doubt they'd take kindly to their ancient enemies trying to steal their business.

I agree with you, and I didn't like the Morag Tong because their legally sanctioned activities meant that they didn't need to be an undercover assassination group. They wandered into places, did the business, and pvssyd with the guards. There's got to be a more interesting way to kill people.


And this is why I preferred Oblivion's Dark Brotherhood to Morrowind's Morag Tong, the killings seemed much more interesting, because you were actually expected to use stealth, and if you wanted to get the best rewards, you often had to kill people in a creative fashion. With the Morag Tong, it was just walk up to your target, kill him, then show a guard you're writ and there would be no trouble.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:28 pm

Since the Dark Brotherhood was king everywhere except Morrowind, and basically all life on Vvardenfell was destroyed, I'd say it's highly likely the Morag Tongis dissolved.

There's still hope maybe some members survived (weren't at Morrowind during the event) maybe some new people take over or maybe there's another guild similar to the morag tong, there's still hope in many types of ways.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:31 pm

The Morag Tong is a lawful (only in Morrowind, not the rest of the empire) assassination guild, the Dark Brotherhood is a group of outlaw dissenters from the guild. For obvious reasons, they hate each other. Would make for some very interesting story lines between them. If both are added, hopefully we can pick which one we join.

Edit: I heard somewhere that Morrowind is invading Skyrim. Any one else confirm that I'm either right or insane?

No, quite the opposite actually. Blackmarsh invaded Morrowind after the ministry of truth crashed and caused all kinds of seismic activity. Including red mountain blowing up. Then the remaining Dunmer fled to Solstheim where the Skaal took them in. I'm sure other Dunmer fled to other places, but it seems the majority of survivors went there. The Argonian's now control Morrowind. Which is now known as The Wasteland if I remember correctly. I know where vivec once was is called the Scathing Bay.

-All from the Infernal City.

Edit* on topic: With that I assume the Morag Tong is no more and if it is re-established by the time Skyrim exists we most likely will not see them because they were only sanctioned in Morrowind. Keep in mind while they were assassin's they did not have to be sneaky. Without their writs I doubt they would be able to survive. Not to mention I'm sure they Dark Brotherhood would have taken them out with them being weakened by Morrowind being taken over/destroyed.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:05 pm

The Morag Tong were a legally sanctioned group of assassins unique to Morrowind. The Dark Brotherhood is the undercover assassin group of Tamriel as a whole, really. Morrowind no longer exists. I highly doubt they would be in Skyrim.


If I've heard correctly, some refugees from Vvardenfell settled in Skyrim. Refugees usually bring much of their culture with them and that could include the Morag Tong.
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Post » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:38 pm

I prefer the Tong to the emo brotherhood by far, but as far as I recall, the Brotherhood has a stranglehold everywhere but in Morrowind, and Tong assassins are hunted down outside Morrowind's borders. I don't remember where I read it. I sincerely doubt there'll be much Morrowind/Skyrim interplay, as Morrowind as we knew it is no more. Maybe refugees and whatnot. I'd prefer a new organization altogether. Preferably a less goth one. Assassins don't necessarily have to be brooding and crazy.

I think I'm just sick of the concept of the ninja-like assassin and would prefer something a bit less cliche for once.
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