Was this guy hard for any of you? I slaughtered this guy on very hard, using Berserk Rage and Pilgrims Grace.

I wiped the floor with Umaril. Jyggalag was a different story.

Yeah.... he's pretty much a pushover. Not as disappointing as Mannimarco, but still....

The first time I did KotN, I wasn't paying that much attention to the aftermath of the first fight and BANG - next thing I knew, I was up on the clouds and he was coming at me. I wasn't at all prepared and had pretty much resigned myself to dying and reloading, but then I just..... killed him. Nothing much to it really.

Really, I don't find hardly any of the "boss" sort of characters that tough, other than Jyggalag (as already noted). That was a tough fight. Not as tough as fighting my doppelganger, but still....

Other than the Uderfrykte Matron (who can be dealt with pretty well at higher levels), off the top of my head, the character who most consistently seems to put up a really challenging fight is Ghola gro-Muzgol - the Orc vampire in the last room in Gutted Mine, on Azura's quest. I believe it was Buffy who called him Ghola gro-Freight Train.

And umbra? She is the most powerful NPC in the game, I believe. Try pitting her in a fight with anyone else.

I guess, but I've never had much trouble with Umbra. Part of that though is undoubtedly that I don't face her until I'm actually doing Vile's quest, which means at least level 20, and by then my character generally has a weapon enchanted strongly enough that s/he's doing something around 70 points of damage per strike, compared to Umbra's measly 28. I'm sure though that if I went in there with a lower leveled character, she'd wipe the floor with him.

As I think about it though, that's probably a lot of the difference with the Orc in Gutted Mine. When my character faces him, s/he's generally relatively low leveled, and has little if anything in the way of enchantments, just because s/he doesn't have Azura's Star yet and powerful enchantments are too much hassle without it.

:shrug:

I'm with gpstr on Umbra. If I do go after her, and sometimes I don't, I'm usually at least level 20, and can take her down pretty fast. The only time she usually kills me is in the mid teen levels.

I beat him down with little trouble unlike some daedric princes of order i know....

KotN is one of my favorite DLCs for any game. The way I gauge success on the battle with Umaril is Did my Knights all survive? I just finished this quest again and came here to find a thread and lo ...it's right on the front page.

He almost got me but - Umaril is severed. So...did all of your Knights survive too? I had to do the middle section 4 times at my Level of 18 because there were so many Aurorans but finally came up with the right combination of actions to get them all through it and to the end. How about you?

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The Aurorans I beat down about twenty times, to have them revive themselves. I would take theyre weapons, and drop it on the ground and have them be hand-to-hand. After that, I found the big sphere thing and it exploded, time stopped, everyone dissapeared. I found Umaril and battled him on normal difficulty easily. The knights of the nine equipment is extraordinarily powerful, and the sword/mace slaughtered him. Fighting him again in spiritual form, I slaughtered him again. A bit peeved about how easy it was, I put it on very-hard difficulty. I put on Berserk (I'm an orc) and Pilgrims grace, and attacked. He did meh damage, since I had Berserk on. I backed him into a wall and slashed the hell out of him for about three minutes untill he died. When I fought him in spiritual world, I almost died several times. Using several scrolls and potions, I boosted myself even more and attacked him. After about five minutes, (I had no wall to back him into) he died, and I won. I didn't lose once.

I'm obsessive about keeping the knights alive, just because I don't like the named knights to be replaced by generic ones. But that just means that I pretty much sprint all the way through... whatever the name of the Ayleid ruin is. The knights never die because I don't give them enough time to.

Then, oddly, I most often put the armor on the display stand, leave the priory and never return. :shrug: