Umm, why would I know anything? *cough cough* I know nothing, sir. Umm, nothing at all. :bolt:

I noted once that Morrowind's future reminds me of Roman Britain in some ways. A number of Romans left in the 5th century CE, but others stayed since the Romans had been in that land for four centuries. The Empire might die but its influence in the provinces will live on. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Britain#End_of_Roman_rule

As for Uriel's sons having illegitimate children, I think Bethesda is trying to show us that the Septim blood was thin in the end, and his sons were nonentities who waited too long to marry. The devs probably are emphasizing that the line is dead now, after Martin's apotheosis.

I'd like it if the throne remains unfilled, but the actions you take in TES V will affect who gets it... kinda like if you drive the Nords out of Morrowind, and stop the invasions, the Dunmer have more resources, and spoils of war, so they can afford to buy other potential emporers off, and influence one of their own leaders to get the job.

I think Barenziah would make a pretty good Empress... I mean, she's seen them in action (especially Tiber Septim...) and she's the mother of one of the most pro-imperial leaders... Though I doubt that would ever happen, and I think someone like Ocato would become emperor by default... Making him Ocato Septim I and renewing the bloodline (in a book, can't remember the name, it mentions that since Uriel I, it's been customary to change your surname to Septim when you become emporer)

I think one important thing to remember is that the Empire technically doesn't NEED an emperor anymore. There were several times in Oblivion when a character would tell you that the Council basically handled everything and that the emperor was there as a figurehead. Now with no dragonfires to relight, the ages-old bond of the Divines and the emperor has been broken. With the barrier between Oblivion and Tamriel officially sealed for good, without the use of a constant relighting every time an emperor kicks the bucket, there is simply no need for an emperor other than lifting Tamriel's spirits.

I would guess that Tamriel is about to enter a new stage of political strife and radical change. Perhaps there will no longer be an emperor, but a ruling council. It's almost as if democracy may soon loom over the skies of Cyrodiil and all the other provinces...

I might be missing something in my TES IV ignorance, but I HIGHLY doubt the barrier is closed for good. Dagon's just...deterred for the time being. He'll be back, I bet.

Well, even if it isn't, the one sure way the Empire had to keep it closed is gone and not needed anymore.

That Dragon Statue is a reaaallllyyy big Stone. And it's shouting, "Get down on your knees and pray to me or that big Eyelid Wang behind me will shut down again and bone you all!"

Nurse, more ice! He's febrile again!

More seriously, it didn't occur to me that the statue is a Stone. I thought the covenant has been broken and that there's no Stone in the capital now. I defer to your knowledge, though.

It's been a while since that whole "new Stone" thing came up in my head, but I recall that Martin breaks the Amulet of Kings to "become" Akatosh; I assume that OTHERS assume (very correctly) that when he turns to stone after defeating Dagon, he literally turns INTO a Stone.

I probably missed some pieces of info, though.

Not knowledge, inferences. White Gold Tower upholds the barriers. A Stone must uphold White Gold. Smashing the AoK and walking away would leave the Tower in the same way as Red Mountain. But Martin and Akatosh changed the rules somehow. It was an act of faith, and certainly not the end of the Covenant. The symbols have been rearranged.

Many European countries are quit new, and not only easteren european countries, modern germany was only founded back in the middle of the 19th century, before that germany was a collection of bavarian kingdoms ...

Long Live Burgundy - the lost kingdom shall be reborn! ... and don't trip over Atlantis when you go for a swim.

Ogier Le Dansk shall return form Roncevalles and ElCid will ride back along the sands to the warm and heartful embrace of his own true love!

What if the jumping Demon wins and yet in winning does not actually destroy everyting - merely returning things to their proper places which may now be different from whatever they were before ... ?

Though it's not much help, I always kind of figured they'd have a reverse Roman Empire deal. The real Roman Empire went from republic to dictatorship, so the Cyrodiilic Empire would go from dictatorship to republic. Basically, rule falls to the Elder Council, but they're not sure what to do about the succession, so the throne remains empty, leaving the Elder Council the effective head of the Empire and eventually turning it into a de facto republic (well, oligarchy, but still?). It would seem somewhat likely, as the main worry now is stabilizing the Empire. Either they hastily appoint someone, an option which could lead to either an incompetent leader or a civil war (or both, even), or they could maintain power within the council with the excuse that the Empire must be preserved, and such requires action. Which would be fairly true for them, I suspect.

As for the people's view of the succession, it seems they could make up something about Martin being the final chapter of the Septim dynasty (which, as far as we know, he is. Uriel seemed the frisky sort, though? but finding a lost heir just seems somewhat anti-climactic), and that with his passing, rituals change and becoming unnecessary, so it falls now to the people (nobles) of Tamriel to rule. Akatosh wills it, and all that. Either that or, who knows, establish a lesser council that would be formed of the people and occupy them like a shiny gold coin while the Elder Council goes on as before.



The only thing here is, were that so, why go through everything with Martin? The thing is, no one really knew about Martin to begin with, so had there been an immediate band-aid heir, however distant, it stands to reason that they would have been applied. Rather, the Elder Council held control and issued orders until Martin arrived. For there to be an heir, it'd have to be distant enough that neither Uriel or the Elder Council was aware of it, which seems unlikely.



Ah, the Franco-Prussian War. Cyrodiil could probably use a Bismarck about now. Italy falls in there as well (Sardinia-Piedmont, Two Sicilies, Lucca, Parma, Modena, Pope-Hatia, Tuscany, as well as the others that pre-date the nineteenth century). Europe sure was fun back then? And I kind of liked Burgundy. Crazy succession laws, always getting in the way?

That was mean

I don't think we'll see a republic. As someone once pointed out here (I think it was Allerleirauh), Tamriel has no tradition of republics. Probably their alternatives at the start of the Fourth Era are anarchy or a new monarch. It's an open question whether the Council is up to the task; I suspect not. More likely they'll be concerned with the security of their respective landholdings.