Which DRM would you rather have included with Fallout New Vegas? Steam or Securom?

None, but Steam is way better than Securom.

Steam is the lesser of two evils.

Steam.

Great program, great service. I've been using it for six months now, and have not had any problems.

That.

Really, I'd prefer to have neither, just a simple disc check would be far preferable, but of those two, I'd say Steam is still a preferable choice, so while I'm annoyed that Obisidian choose to use Steam, I'm not as displeased about it as I would be if they had gone with some of the other popular choices for DRM.

I still think that the only reason Obsidian chose Steam is for DLC distribution. Almost everyone hated GFWL, so they wouldn't want to reuse that.

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's almost always the publisher that chooses the DRM.
I don't really think it really changes much, but I just wanted to point it out.

Now, that said, none of the above.
A disc check is much less intrusive, and much much better for me, and since the game will be cracked anyway, at least people without an internet connection could play it.
Just sayin'.

I added CD Key/Disc Check as a poll option.

I don't think the publishers and developers understand that no matter what they do that the game is going to get cracked regardless unless they make you use OnLive or something similar but if that ever happens, God help us all.

I've been using Steam for 5 years, and it's okay, but when my brother plays some game on Steam (he's got 800 hrs on TF2...and he's 7) I can't play any game on it, and that's my biggest problem with Steamworks

Anything other than Steam.

No matter how better it is, I'm inherently offended by the idea of needing repeated online access to play a game that is 1) purchased from a brick-and-mortar store, and 2) single player/non-online.

It's idiotic.


(And hey, I think Steam is great. I have it, I've bought stuff from them, etc, etc, etc. I just vehemently dislike forcing it as DRM for a completely single player game.)

You don't need to be online while playing Steam games.
You only need to be online when you download the game from the Steam servers. After that you are free to play your games in off-line mode as long as you are
logged into your account.

cd key/disc check, simple and effective enough

I don't see the point of internetconnection need for a singleplayer game (even if it's only an activation).

Steam, for the simple reason that once I have it on my account, I can download to any pc. The only downside is if I forget my password, which has happened before and caused me to essentially have lost the orangebox.

None.
I chose CD Key/Disk Check as it is the least intrusive of the lot, and one can play when off line.

When playing FallOut 3 I felt lonely, so I added the game to Steam via the "Add-Non Steam Game" option, and with the shift + tab combo I could check the time and talk to my mates while playing.

People that argue about DLC and the idea of online activation are talking rubbish, the only problem with Steam is if your internet goes down due to techinical problems or if you are forced to share it. If you cannot afford a good internet connection, a personal computer of your own and your own Steam Account, then you belong on the console market, because that is designed for people who do not want to bother with or cannot manage/afford what I just mentioned.

I myself have at times considered leaving all the drama of the PC to pickup a console, it's up to you.

None, Cd Key at worst.


DRM only punishes those who acquire games legally. Waste of time and effort.

You know that there are still places in the world where a good internet connection (or an internet connection AT ALL) simply aren't a possibility?

Then I'm pretty sure buying a console is a possibility for them.
If I lost my internet connection I wouldn't moan about Steam, I would of already svcked it up and paid for a damn console and that would be the end of it. Life isn't perfect, **** happens, etc. You all love the tragic world that is fallout, can't help but laugh at the irony of a complete refusal to accept a difficult or not prefered situation.

That being said it's not your fault or anyone elses fault who doesnt have a connection, but at the end of the day if you really want this game you'll get it going by whatever means necessary, thats what gamers put up with through the console war rubbish to this DRM issue. That's life.

Copy protection is not the same as DRM, by the way.

I agree with that, I can't wait to move back to the states. :sadvaultboy:

Well, I was going to add it to Steam so I could talk to friends and use the in-game web browser anyway, so using Steam just saves me a couple of clicks.

I'd like a combo of Steam/disccheck/cdkey. It'd be steam by default, but with a cdcheck/key workaround.

"This just in! Bethesda Softworks has just announced that they will be contracting Ubisoft for all their future games' DRM."

Be careful what you wish for. :3

Don't even joke like that, man. Go knock on wood.

I personally would like a disc check, because DRM has only ever inconvenienced the people who buy games.
I would like game publishers to understand that they are designing a DRM in a world where anything you create can and will be cracked by a community numbered in at least ten-fold of your own team: made of people who do this regularly, and probably for a longer time than you.

Disc check can actually be obnoxious, even though it is the most preferable DRM. I like to have all my games saved on my computer so I can just sit down and play without digging for the appropriate disc, or to be able to continue playing it if I lent my copy to a friend for a week so he could try it out before paying the 50 bucks for a game.

I am closing this thread as we have already had posts that I have had to think of a reason not to warn people for.