Fallout 3 came out in October of 2008 and Fallout 4 is coming out less than 2 years later. I was wondering if Fallout 4 will be as good as or better than Fallout 3?

most likely, unless beth is trying to worsen the fallout franchise for some reason

Referring to Fallout: New Vegas perhaps? Because there is no Fallout 4 coming out in any known time. And New Vegas is being developed by Obsidian, not Bethesda.

Fallout 4 is not coming out any time soon. It is Fallout: New Vegas, a spinnoff game developed by Obsidian, that has been announced for this year. Considering that many of the people now with Obsidian were among the developers of the first two games we can expect it to be quite good.

Fallout 4 in two years? Are you sure you aren't thinking about Fallout: New Vegas, which isn't being developed by Bethesda and isn't Fallout 4? If not, you should know that Fallout 4 hasn't been announced yet and whatever Bethesda is releasing next is most likely and should be TES V.

The proper question is "Will Fallout 4 be as good as Fallout 1 and 2 ?"

Indeed. Big shoes to fill, but not impossibly big.

How good Fo4 will be is totally dependent on how many resources Bethesda pours into the project. I recall Todd Howard once saying in an interview that it takes, "alot of love and time to make a game like Fallout3" (to paraphrase him). Per the video, "Making of Fallout3" that comes in the collectors edition, Fo3 had most of the resources of Beth dedicated to it - and thats alot of people! Perhaps 60-80? (I heard they have 80-90 people at Beth). Whatever the number, it was a formidible force over a 3-4 year time-span to get Fallout3 out.

New Vegas had only a fraction of that team size until Obsidian cancelled game(s) and dedicated more staff to NV (per the interview), though I don't have any info on how large Obsidian's force is or how many troops are committed to this project. Given a 2 year time-span with a smaller team, we cannot expect the same "amount" of content that we got with the original game. I would envision this being like a large Expansion by size comparison. The big advantage is that they got to start with a working GECK and 1+ million resources from day-1. Clearly Bethesda did not have this kind of advantage going in, so much will depend on how many GECK-masters that Obsidian produces in their time working the project.

Miax

Ahh, that may be your question but it was not the OP's question and thus off topic in this thread. Stay on topic and don't bring up what is often a source of flamebait for those that are fans of FO3. This is Bethesda's home after all.

Thank you.



Yes, I have faith that Obsidian will do a good enough job with New Vegas and that Fallout 4 will be an improvement over Fallout 3.

I expect it to be. Hopefully, a new composer (or better choice in ambient music) will be implemented, better graphics, and recently I have been noticing a lot more people paying attention to the story line+action rather than just the latter (or the former (rarely in video games have I seen both come together seamlessly)). You and I can probably expect fallout 4 to be better than 3 in many ways. Maybe I'm just overconfident. One can hope I suppose.

IMO gigantic shoes to fill to follow Fallout 3. If there's a studio that can do it, however, it's Bethesda. I was completely captivated by Fallout 3 from the start , and it's become my favourite game of all time (I've been gaming since the days of the Atari 2600 console!!)

Given enough time and resources, I'm sure Bethesda will produce another masterpiece.

For this reason, I'm also not one of the people hoping Fallout 4 will appear soon ... the studio should take their time. Rushing games never produces anything more than mediocrity :vaultboy:

Wait, so asking whether Fallout 4 will be as good as Fallout 3 is fine, but as soon as someone asks whether it will be as good as Fallout 1 and 2 he's suddenly flamebaiting and gets warnings from moderators? Pretty damn silly, I gotta say.



I don't see how the question of whether it will be as good as earlier Fallout games is off topic in a thread about whether it will be as good as the latest one. Definitely much more on topic than a lot of other discussions in this forum. And this is the Fallout series general discussion forum, not the Fallout 3 forum, so the discussions natually take the whole series as a context. Especially if the guy actually means New Vegas, not Fallout 4 - in this case Fallout 1 and 2 are very much on topic, given that New Vegas is being made by the makers of FO1 and 2.

I'm still a little bit confused as to whether we're talking about Fallout 4, or New Vegas. Since NV is the one that's coming out in the near future (and I don't believe Bethesda has even technically, officially, confirmed Fallout 4 - much less set a tentative release date; even if we can pretty much assume there's going to be one at some point,) I'm guessing that's what the OP meant?

Either way - I figure NV is going to be pretty good; hopefully at least on par with Fallout 3. I'm not really expecting very much more than another Fallout 3, but with a different story and setting. They're going to be re-using a lot of assets from Fallout 3 in the first place, I'd imagine - which is how they're going to be able to push it out so quickly. We'll have to see, though.

For the hypothetical Fallout 4 - I'd certainly hope that it would be an exponential "improvement" over the previous game. Like comparing the Elder Scroll games, for example. You can see where they went from Morrowind to Oblivion, for example - and I'd imagine the next Elder Scrolls game to be a decent leap forward, as well.

Strictly on-topic answer: I don't know if you were wondering that.




(this has potential)

Pete Hines said that they definitely intend to eventually develop more than just one Fallout game. And if they didn't, why would they buy the whole rights to the franchise and not just keep the license for three Fallout games they had?



I consider Oblivion to be inferior to Morrowind in many regards, actually.

You can find this on The Vault site, there are specific quotes to this regard that they do intend to continue using their Fallout IP in future "things"



Pure madness, Oblivion was tons better - but that is off topic.

Like nu-clear-day, I expect Fo4 will be a "next-generation" game as compared to Fo3.

Miax

If it's as "next-generation" as Fallout 3 is to Fallout 2, I think I'll pass. The only thing that got me interested in the franchise again (and got me to register in this forum) is Obsidian's involvement in the franchise. I'd love it if Bethesda focused solely on Elder Scrolls and outsourced all future Fallout projects to Obsidian, which is why I hope that New Vegas will sell great and get great reviews.

I agree. I'm just saying, it's not like anyone gone on the record and held a press conference to say "We are now working on Fallout 4, this is what it's going to be called, and this is our projected timeline." ie, there's a bit of a difference between "yeah, I intend to do this, at some point, probably," and "we are now doing this - this is what we're doing. Right now."

Not that I necessarily disagree with you all that much - but isn't that sort of counting your eggs before they hatch? We don't really "know" anything defininte about New Vegas, beyond that Obsidian's making it; and that they're basically using the tech from Fallout 3 as a jumping-off point. I have some hopes for it, I think it's coming from a good pedigree. But I'm not going to wish for Bethesda to simply hand over the license to another company simply because of a game that I haven't even seen a screenshot of yet; much less have any idea of it's quality.

when i said fallout 4 i meant fallout new vegas

I don't want them to habd over the license simply because of a game that I haven't even seen a screenshot of yet, but because of Chris Avellone, J.E. Sawyer, Feargus Urquhart, Brian Menze, Scott Everts and others that helped create the two Fallout games that I have been playing for the last 10 years.

ok, lets use this thread; http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1062902