I love your humour. Writing style's refreshing, too.

I actually do like the "Perk every level" mod personally. It bring back the character development system of FO3, and seeing as they nerfed perks like "Grim Reaper's Sprint" and "Educated" so it's not that overpowered to get a perk each level. But Mod like that are to customize the game to the players tastes so it doesn't belong on an essential list.

I disagree with the OP over all. As others have said the only really essential mods are the ones that improve game performance (4G New Vegas) and/or update the game to work/look better on the PC (Darnified UI, Centered 3rd Person Camera). Ylurien's list is closer to being a essential list IMHO.

As I said... the mods -I- put on this page are not actually what I would call 'essential'... with the exception of the Community Bug Fix.

The mods I have contributed to this topic are, instead, those which I would "Highly Recommend" to any friend asking me which mods he ought to go look up. Most of these I even have added to a special Firefox Bookmark Folder called New Vegas Mods to Watch and Recommend. I find that such a list is far more agreeable to others than making any 'attempt' at telling you what you 'Absolutely need to have'.

I don't deal in absolutes.

Except for absolutely needing to wash my hands with precisely four pumps of soap every time... then use exactly three pieces of paper towel to dry them, and then to attempt to sink the 'three point shot' from the center of the room to the garbage can.

But again, these are symptoms of my obsessive compulsive personality.

Perhaps the issue of essential mods is something that should be debated? Take these arguments, for example...Fixed in the latest patch, according to the notes.Only essential is you have more than 3GB of RAM - although, to be honest, most people do anyway. Quite.I'd say it wasn't essential, but then what would it be? The invisible walls in New Vegas are implemented pretty poorly (they should be on the edges of cliffs, not on their surfaces!), so I suppose this is a "must-use" mod.

Your "hardcoe" mods, however, don't really seem essential at all. Arwen's mod is quite hardcoe, but perhaps too hardcoe for some.

http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2686

That mod changed the perk rate to every other level, but it also balanced out the perks to require less levels for the multi-leveled ones. I also got http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6984 to change tagging skills to only give you 10 starting out, but you get 2 levels in the skill for every point you put in just like the first two Fallouts. That encourages you to level up your tagged skills quicker and can turn Tag! into an actually useful perk rather than just a one-time bonus of 15 points to a skill. It also slowed down how quickly you gained skill points to make Tag! and putting points into tagged skills that much more enticing. http://newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35347 is the closest version I could find for New Vegas.

Thank you I wonder if that is FWE compatible, though?

Not mentioned in the compatibility list, have to try when i feel like hammering a new load order for Fallout 3 :brokencomputer:

I'm not going to get into a "Yes it is!" "No it isn't!" argument on whether ~80 perks is enough to cover 30-per-character, so lets drop that one. It's a ridiculous argument anyway since my problem is with the LACK of a perks mod to go with it.



I run the game on max with no extra tweaks, so those mods aren't essential to me ;P Centered third person camera is also entirely subjective to the user. DUI is the only mod I *really* consider hands-down 'essential', and that only really because one should not have to scroll for dialogue choices for every conversation in a game.

I created this mod list for the intent of helping others. Granted, I shouldn't have named this my 'Essential' mods. list, and take full responsibility for my poorly written actions. However, I am quite appalled at some of the comments written by the members of this forum.

Like I said, I'm sorry if this isn't what you expected it to be; I was only trying to help.

Aww! Don't worry... people are jerks. It's part of the EULA of the Internet.

A certain percentage of folks are required, by contract, to hassle... harass... abuse... stalk... violate mentally... and otherwise challenge your sixual orientation/political beliefs/religious beliefs and/or your 'coolness' factor. Of which you have none, when compared to The Fonz.


Overall, though, I do think it was a poor choice of wording... simply because this is evidenced by the way folks reacted. Which is dumb... because obviously you had no intentions of saying they 'NEEDED' these mods. You were simply providing a list of mods without which, you would not much enjoy playing.

Such lists tend to come with an understanding that... not everyone need apply.

Different strokes for different folks, and all that whoo-ha.


That being said: my friend PhoenixFang -made- that perk every level mod which you put on that list... so I suppose he'll enjoy hearing that his mod made number TWO on someone's ESSENTIAL list.


In the meanwhile, don't let any of these guys get to you.

They're not the ones this list was meant for... so of -course- they're going to complain.

Fortunately, they're unimportant to the grand scheme of things... and you can continue to post here any other mods you feel worthy of recommending, with the ASSURANCE that Colonel Tannanbaum will defend your right to do so.

Cheers.

What is God's name are you talking about?

No really are you on drugs? Bob Saget? Goldfish?

Kudo's Col, well said!

The irony of someone named Junkie asking if I'm on drugs... priceless!


No really, though, you'd have to go back to the beginning of this thread. People were ragging on the OP for calling this list 'ESSENTIAL'.

In order to shut folks up, I began spouting off random bits of insane storytelling along with my own list of 'recommended mods'... in order to bore people into submission or scare them away entirely. I then threatened to CONTINUE doing so if people didn't give up on harassing Haruhi... but I think it was Shad who said (s)he(?) kind've enjoyed it...

So to punish everyone, I continued on for a while... until the thread seemed to largely die.

No need to start it up again, though.

There's not that many people here to fend off.


It was just me, doing a good deed for someone being hammered with unjust criticism.

Maybe it is the case that threads which post up somebody's favorite "recommended", "essential" etc. mod list are a detraction.

Yes this is a mods board but, such threads are just like those "introduction" threads, in my mind. At least the unwanted "introduction" threads are relegated by the board moderators to a separate board and are ONLY allowed there. We can be thankful for that.

Every single person who comes to this board can be expected to have a mod load order of their own, just like each of us has a name/board identity. kso shall we all flood the board with copy-pastes and reviews of our mod load? Mercifully, most of us know not to do that.

But you see... what we lack here... is a board to do precisely what you have suggested not be allowed.

As this is the mod board, this would be the PLACE for someone to put their list of recommended mods, whatever they choose to call them, for others to see. There is no other, more 'suitable' board for this, and I think it is laughable that anyone would actually come INTO this thread in order to make comments SOLELY based upon their feeling that it should not be allowed to exist.

Obviously, as it was not deleted and has been allowed to stand for this long... nor is it -alone- in its existence of 'recommended mods' lists posted here... your point was a moot one.

Impotent rage, etcetera, etcetera.


The fact remains that these lists are NOT against the rules.

And for many, these lists are the FIRST time many of these mods are ever seen. Certain folks are even -appreciative- of individuals taking their time to direct them towards what they consider to be 'must have' mods... because otherwise, they might never find them at all.

It's folks who come here, don't like what they read about, and feel the need to devolve and/or hijack the topic completely that bother me.

It's offensive to the author of the thread... it's a hindrance to anyone who might actually WANT to check out the mods... and its' a complete waste of time and effort which might be better spent elsewhere.


Tarrant... you're a damn fine modder... but I had -never- heard of Phalanx until someone posted it up on a list.

If I hadn't seen that list, idly one day... I'd have never developed the love/hate relationship I have with your mod. To begrudge the listing of favorite mods, recommendations, and adoration... for the purpose of what? Cluttering up your board of needy, demanding requests from people who joined TODAY... that's what's eating away at you?

I think you're just taking it a bit too seriously.

They're never going to go away. At best, they might get their own 'sub-forum' or something.

Big Fun = http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35823
Bind to 1 = Cazadore, Shmazadore!

That would be a world better.

That would be a perfectly reasonable solution. Then everyone would win.

I like when smart folks come up with smart solutions.

We should see if the admins would be willing to do precisely that.

Post something useful or get off the internet. Stop clogging up this thread with your whining and meaningless banter. If you're not going to post a link or taught about another mod, don't post.

This thread is broken allready, hard to dig trought all this to fin out what ppl`s liking is in "essentials" mods.

Lock it, delete it, put gasoline on it and let it buuuurn :flamethrower: :flame: