They consider themselves pure humans, the master race, and that all mutants must be exterminated off the planet.
How is that not racism?

as any modder will tell you, Ghouls are indeed a unique race.

Yeah, I think Bethesda has done a fine job spreading the load of good and bad people over the entire spectrum of npc's: you have both nasty jerks, neutrals, and helpful strangers in human (all ethnicities), ghoul, robot, supermutant, and animal form. Only the insects are all bad, except for some ants that you have to look pretty hard to find. If anything, Beth might be guilty of making most of the REALLY bad npc's human: most of the raiders, slavers, the Enclave (with a notable exception), Ashur and Wernher, Tenpenny, the Vaulttec Corp back in the day, etc.

For the OP, you may have encountered a lot more human ethnic types than you think-- but all the whites, asians, and latinos look so similar when they're shooting at you that it's hard to tell, especially with the (somewhat silly, IMO) 80's punk hairstyles and the layers of grime everyone has because washing is just a memory. You shoot, duck, hit and slash them, then loot their broken bodies... who has time to look at them closely?

Wow. Just.. wow.

You do know that Mexican isn't a race, right? It's a nationality.

some of you guys need to truely grasp what the defenition of racism
really is... but thanks for the laugh.

Troll alert. Not only is this stupid, it isn't even true. It's kind of funny that he seems to think all hispanics are Mexicans, though.

Complete and total extermination of every single person who's different fron you is called genocide. It's an extreme version of racism.

Racism in the "I don't like xyz. I think they're stupid/weak/violent/etc..." does no equal genocide. You can hate a group of people without being genocidal.

While you guys are listing black characters, don't forget about Red in Big Town, Biwwy in Little Lamplight and Kodiak in the BoS. :wave:

With a little fiddling around with the avatar generator, I made a character who was Native American (his last name was Ironhorse after the actor because I liked the name). Of course on the various contracts on his head he was listed as Hispanic, but what do those guys know, anyway? I didn't pick a specific nation for him to be descended from but I did take the trouble to get Red's bandanna since it's the only one in the Wasteland and I wanted it so I could get that movie Apache look.

Racism is hating someone because of his/her race. The Enclave does not do that. They have men and women of all races in their ranks and they target everyone they consider not human. Thus the Enclave targets creatures of other humanoid species. It doesn't matter what s/he looks like: if their DNA is different enough from their definition of homo sapiens, they are a threat to the human race and they must be destroyed.

But on racism itself in Fallout, Chris Avellone confirmed it in Fallout Bible that there is racism in Fallout as it was in the pre-war world. It is just not portrayed in the games since it would make them banned all over the world.


On Bethesda being racist with not having "enough" blacks and "Mexicans", I disagree. Both are minorities and especially in Fallout world there would be a massive white majority in the United States. If you wanted to have blacks statistically correctly in this game, only one in ten NPCs would be black. But it is not the case since most factions have a 25% percentage of each race making all the races equally present in the game.

Well, downtown DC actually has a high concentration of African Americans, so there would be more of them among the survivors. Similarly, California would likely have a higher proportion of Latinos.

Like my Grandmother and Aunt for instance.

Who cares? Seriously... whites are the majority in the game. It's not like we start a game and get told "be a white male with blue eyes and blonde hair or a sub-human of another race".

It's not racism, it's just people trying to complain about bull-sh*t.

It's not likely very many Downtown residents survived the exchange, much less the chaos and radiation afterward. Aside from Underworld, there doesn't appear to have been a permanent settlement in DC at all until Rivet City was cleared around 2030.

Except you know... who's to say any blacks are alive then? It's a different reality. For all you know, all the blacks left America.

Except for Sherrif Simms, Biwwy, Red, Three Dog, Kodiak, nameless raiders, nameless BoS Personnel, nameless Talon Co. Operatives...

Point is, it may not be like it is in our reality.

Racism, oh cmmon!! Don't focus on the racism focus on the greatness that is fallout.

you [censored] are never satisfied are you, Jonas, Paul Hannon, Officer Hannon, Lucas Simms, his kid, Bannon, Brock, that one begger guy in a random encounter, Three Dog, Star Paladin Cross, Victoria Watts, not to mention tons of wastelanders, that chick in Mothership Zeta, Leroy Walker, Eulogy Jones, the guy who is the leader of the place with Lincolon's head, all the Lincolon refrences, he freed the slaves, your character could be black, the owner of A
Quick Fix in Rivit City, your dad could be black, and Docter Church

I no rite. I don't what the problem is.