Hey guys, I'm very sorry to bother you all with another lame crashing problem. I'll just get right to it, I'm crashing at seemingly random times. I thought it might be hitting the memory cap, but I have 4 gb ram on 64 bit vista with the 4gb patch. Here's my load order:

Oblivion.esm
Open Cities Resources.esm
Knights.esp
Cosmetic Compilation.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
Streamline 3.0.esp
Short Grass V3.esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp
Vergayun.esp
ArcaneBankofCyrodiil.esp
Faregyl.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
Open Cities Leyawiin Reborn.esp
Open Cities Outer Districts.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
NRB4+UL-II+OCOD Patch.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
NRB4+RR Patch.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
TIE.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
Open Cities New Sheoth.esp
Rumare-AFK_Weye Patch.esp
Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp
road+bridges.esp
AFK_Weye.esp
Open Cities Full + Leyawiin Reborn.esp
OCC-ULCH-Patch.esp
NRB4 OCLR Road Record.esp



I know my patches are all screwed up. I have a brain issue that causes me to get frustrated very easily, especially if I'm confused. It seems someone named the patches all very similiarly and I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out which went where...I'm almost certain I'm missing on as well...so I hope someone can help...I will be very appreciative!

My computer specs are:

Nvida 9800gts
2.4 core 2 duo
4gb ram
7200 rpm hd

Update: This is my new "Bossified" load order:

Oblivion.esm
Open Cities Resources.esm
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
TIE.esp
ArcaneBankofCyrodiil.esp
Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
Knights.esp
AFK_Weye.esp
Rumare-AFK_Weye Patch.esp
road+bridges.esp
Vergayun.esp
Faregyl.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
Open Cities New Sheoth.esp
Open Cities Leyawiin Reborn.esp
Open Cities Outer Districts.esp
Open Cities Full + Leyawiin Reborn.esp
OCC-ULCH-Patch.esp
NRB4+UL-II+OCOD Patch.esp
NRB4+RR Patch.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Short Grass V3.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
Cosmetic Compilation.esp
NRB4 OCLR Road Record.esp
Streamline 3.0.esp


I'll give it a shot.

Are you using the latest official patch?
Maybe try installing the unoficial patches: http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=1417, http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=2754, http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=2384
Are you running http://obse.silverlock.org/ if so, what plugins are you using? If you're not already, try http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22282 and/or http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1074487-relzoblivion-stutter-remover/
Are you using the latest BOSS masterlist? Get it http://code.google.com/p/better-oblivion-sorting-software/source/browse/masterlist.txt (right-click on "View raw file" on the right, select "save as", and replace your current masterlist.txt)
Maybe try http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22368? An FAQ is available http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tes4Mod:Wrye_Bash_FAQ if you need help.

EDIT: Damnit, TESNexus is down until about 4Pm est. Anybody have another link to weOCPS or bash?

I installed the three you gave me, thanks again. I dl'd Weather - All Natural but couldn't install it because it requires Wrye Bash and that thing requires more stuff and it all got very confusing. Especially the use of Wrye Bash itself.

The basic use of Wrye Bash (making a bashed patch) is pretty easy, once you get the hang of it. The hardest part, IMO, is installation - you need a whole crapload of files to make that thing work. You don't look like you really need it, though.

My suggestion: Defrag the hard drive. I was crashing horribly last night playing both Oblivion and Fallout, then I checked my frag status: 13% overall, 33% files (it was from removing MS Office and upgrading to IE8, among other things). :shakehead: So, yeah, I'm sure that will help immensely.

Ok so I got WryeBash up and running, got Weather - All Natural installed and my bashedpatch created...doing whatever it does. Still having the crashes though, here's the new load order:

Oblivion.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Open Cities Resources.esm
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
TIE.esp
ArcaneBankofCyrodiil.esp
Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
Knights.esp
AFK_Weye.esp
Rumare-AFK_Weye Patch.esp
road+bridges.esp
Vergayun.esp
Faregyl.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
Open Cities New Sheoth.esp
Open Cities Leyawiin Reborn.esp
Open Cities Outer Districts.esp
Open Cities Full + Leyawiin Reborn.esp
OCC-ULCH-Patch.esp
NRB4+UL-II+OCOD Patch.esp
NRB4+RR Patch.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Short Grass V3.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
Cosmetic Compilation.esp
NRB4 OCLR Road Record.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Streamline 3.0.esp

Open Cities Leyawiin Reborn.esp
Open Cities Outer Districts.esp
Open Cities Full + Leyawiin Reborn.esp


Doesn't #3 cover the first one...as in redundant.... this is just a guess tho...I dont run Open city's but sure looks like it to me....Might want to look into this...


EDIT ..you say you have Bash up an running..it would help everyone if you used that to post your Load order ,
Bash Gives the Version number your using. Right click header and chose " List Mods" Then paste it here .


I was told to update Harvest [Flora].esp to the newest ....3.0.1 See if thats the version you have...

Here is a bash order:

odebox]Active Mod Files:
00 Oblivion.esm
01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.8]
02 Open Cities Resources.esm [Version 3.3.2]
03 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
04 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
05 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.8]
06 All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.8]
07 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.8]
08 All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version 0.9.6]
09 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
0A TIE.esp [Version 1.34]
0B ArcaneBankofCyrodiil.esp
0C Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp
0D DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
0E Knights.esp
0F AFK_Weye.esp
10 Rumare-AFK_Weye Patch.esp
11 road+bridges.esp [Version 4.5.4]
12 Vergayun.esp [Version 1.0.4]
13 Faregyl.esp [Version 1.0.10]
14 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.4]
15 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
16 xulTheHeath.esp
17 XulEntiusGorge.esp
18 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
19 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]
1A xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
1B xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.3]
1C xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]
1D xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3]
1E xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.2]
1F xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
20 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
21 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
22 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
23 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2]
24 xulPantherRiver.esp
25 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
26 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2]
27 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.3]
28 xulBlackwoodForest.esp
29 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
2A xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.1]
2B xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
2C Open Cities New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.1]
2D Open Cities Leyawiin Reborn.esp [Version 3.3.1]
2E Open Cities Outer Districts.esp [Version 3.3.2]
2F Open Cities Full + Leyawiin Reborn.esp [Version 3.3.3]
30 OCC-ULCH-Patch.esp [Version 2.2]
31 NRB4+UL-II+OCOD Patch.esp [Version 3.0.1]
32 NRB4+RR Patch.esp [Version 2.1]
33 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
34 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
35 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
36 Short Grass V3.esp
37 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
38 Cosmetic Compilation.esp
39 NRB4 OCLR Road Record.esp
3A Bashed Patch, 0.esp
3B Streamline 3.0.esp
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No ideas? I can try just loading up groups of mods to find the culprit, but is that safe with a bashed patch?