No Speech Sound From Default Npc's : IV

» Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:53 am

Hi all,

I've just installed Windows 7 so have re-installed my oblivion mods with a fresh install, Although everything is working great and runs well I'm not getting any speech from the default npc's. All the mods that add new npc's with speech work perfectly. I've checked all the bash tags with BOSS and they all seem fine, I'm hoping someone will have a suggestion about what to check next.

Load List

This is a report on your currently active/merged mods.

=== Active Mod Files:
* 00 Oblivion.esm
* 01 Cybiades.esm [Version 2.0]
* 02 Jog_X_Mod.esm
* 03 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.8]
* 04 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
* 05 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
* 06 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
* 07 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
* 08 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
* 09 VASE - core.esm
* 0A CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
* 0B TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
* 0C FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
* 0D Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
* 0E Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1]
* 0F BetterMusicSystem.esm
* 10 CM Partners.esm
* 11 HorseCombatMaster.esm
* 12 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.4]
* 13 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
* 14 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
* 15 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
* 16 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
* ++ Shivering OOO.esp
* ** Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp
* ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp
* ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp
* 17 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
* 18 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
* 19 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
* 1A Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
* ++ Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp
* ++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* ++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* 1B FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* 1C Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp
* 1D LoadingScreens.esp
* 1E LoadingScreensAddOn.esp
* 1F Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
* 20 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.8]
* 21 All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.8]
* 22 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.8]
* ++ All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version 0.9.6]
* 23 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
* ++ Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp [Version 0.1]
* ++ Symphony of Violence.esp
* 24 MIS.esp
* 25 MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp
* 26 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
* 27 Storms & Sound.esp
* 28 WindowLightingSystem.esp
* 29 AliveWaters.esp
* 2A AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
* 2B AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
* 2C Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp
* 2D Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp
* 2E kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp
* 2F Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
* ++ Cobl Bookjackets.esp
* 30 007camera.esp
* 31 FOV Modifier.esp
* 32 ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
* ++ CM_Better Wine.esp
* 33 ImprovedSigns.esp
* ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.78]
* ++ Faction_Rank_Fix-5862.esp
* 34 Reznod_Mannequin.esp
* 35 Wyverex's - Runes.esp
* 36 Living Economy - SI.esp
* 37 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.4]
* 38 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.0.2]
* 39 sr_super_hotkeys.esp
* 3A DLCHorseArmor.esp
* 3B DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
* 3C DLCOrrery.esp
* 3D DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
* ** DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp
* 3E DLCVileLair.esp
* 3F DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
* 40 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
* 41 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
* ** DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp
* 42 DLCSpellTomes.esp
* ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
* ** Book Jackets DLC.esp
* ++ GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp
* ++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
* ++ ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp
* 43 ClassyClothingCompendium.esp
* 44 Thieves Arsenal.esp
* 45 XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp
* ** Armamentium female.esp
* 46 DLCThievesDen.esp
* 47 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
* 48 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
* ** DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp
* 49 Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp
* 4A Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
* 4B Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
* 4C OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
* ++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* 4D Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
* 4E FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* 4F Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
* ++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* 50 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
* 51 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
* 52 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
* ++ OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon.esp [Version 0.5]
* ** Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp
* ++ OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0]
* 53 OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.0]
* ++ ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35]
* 54 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
* 55 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
* ++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
* 56 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* 57 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* 58 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
* ++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
* ++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* ++ FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* 59 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
* ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
* ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
* 5A Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
* 5B Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
* 5C Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
* 5D Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
* 5E Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f]
* ++ VASE - Vanilla SI.esp
* ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
* ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
* ++ TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp [Version 1.40Alpha]
* 5F TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
* ** TamrielTravellers4OOO Vwalk.esp
* 60 TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [Version 1.39c]
* ++ ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]
* ++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* ++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* ++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* ++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* ++ FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* ++ FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* 61 FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* 62 FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
* ++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
* ++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
* ++ Fransfemale.esp
* 63 KDCircletsOOOOptimized - Loot Only.esp [Version 1.2]
* ++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
* ++ EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp
* 64 AranMathi.esp
* 65 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1]
* ++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
* 66 GTAesgaard.esp
* 67 HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.2]
* 68 GlenvarCastle.esp
* 69 LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp
* 6A Malevolent.esp
* 6B The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.2.1]
* 6C TheElderCouncil.esp
* 6D TheForgottenShields.esp
* 6E thievery.esp
* 6F VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
* 70 WOTFH_1.3.esp
* 71 DLCfrostcrag.esp
* 72 FrostcragRebornCobl.esp
* ** DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp
* 73 Knights.esp
* ** Knights - Book Jackets.esp
* 74 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
* ** Knights Vwalk UOP.esp
* ++ EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
* 75 Cybiades.esp [Version 2.1]
* 76 CybiadesDungeon.esp [Version 2.1]
* ** Cybiades Vwalk.esp
* 77 TOTF.esp
* 78 RTT.esp
* ** RTT Vwalk.esp
* 79 The Lost Spires.esp
* 7A Blood&Mud.esp
* ** Blood&Mud Vwalk.esp
* 7B Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
* 7C (DC) The Way of the Necromancer - Light.esp
* 7D Origin of the Mages Guild.esp [Version 6]
* 7E The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp
* 7F MannimarcoRevisited.esp
* 80 MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1]
* 81 Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp
* 82 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
* 83 FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* ++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
* 84 FCOM_DulanCult.esp [Version 0.9.9]
* 85 Origin of the Mages Guild OOO Patch.esp [Version 5.0.FINAL]
* 86 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.4]
* 87 LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
* 88 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
* 89 xulTheHeath.esp
* 8A MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp
* 8B XulEntiusGorge.esp
* 8C xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
* 8D LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp [Version 1.2]
* 8E TheElderCouncil-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp [Version 1.2]
* 8F xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]
* 90 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
* ** xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp
* 91 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.3]
* 92 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]
* ** xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.esp
* 93 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3]
* 94 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.2]
* 95 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
* 96 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
* 97 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
* 98 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
* 99 HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.esp
* 9A LostSwordoftheAyleids-ArriusCreek patch.esp
* 9B xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2]
* ** xulRollingHills_EV Vwalk.esp
* 9C MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp
* 9D xulPantherRiver.esp
* 9E xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
* 9F xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2]
* ** xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp
* A0 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.3]
* ** xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp
* A1 xulBlackwoodForest.esp
* A2 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
* A3 Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
* A4 Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp
* A5 TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
* A6 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.1]
* ** xulAspenWood Vwalk.esp
* A7 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
* ** xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.esp
* A8 bartholm.esp
* A9 Bartholm-Panther River Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
* AA BarrowFields-Blood&Mud-Patch.esp [Version 1.3]
* AB Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
* ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
* ++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
* AC Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
* AD Automagic Bags.esp
* AE Cliff_BetterLetters.esp [Version 1.1]
* ++ Cliff_CountyNames.esp [Version 1.1]
* AF DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp
* B0 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
* B1 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]
* B2 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]
* ++ Short Grass V3.esp
* ++ Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp
* B3 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.1.1]
* B4 ATakesAll.esp
* B5 RealisticForceMedium.esp
* B6 RealisticMagicForceLow.esp
* B7 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90]
* B8 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]
* ++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.80]
* ++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]
* ++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89]
* ++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86]
* B9 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80]
* ++ SM_UnlockSpells.esp [Version 0.70]
* ++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]
* ++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83]
* BA MidasSpells.esp
* BB sr_spell_deletion.esp
* BC Deadlier Sneaking 1.1.esp
* BD Enter The Shinobi - Coors916.esp
* BE Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp
* BF DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
* ++ SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.86]
* C0 Oblivion XP.esp [Version 4.1.5]
* ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.78]
* ++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.78]
* ++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp [Version 0.78]
* ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
* C1 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]
* ** Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53]
* ** Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53]
* C2 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]
* ++ bgBalancingEVNoSIVersion_Core_still_required.esp [Version 10.5DV-D]
* ++ TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.esp
* C3 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
* ++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]
* ++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV]
* ++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV]
* C4 bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV]
* ++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]
* C5 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]
* C6 bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57]
* C7 bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp [Version 1.68UV]
* C8 bgBalancingOptionalLessHealth.esp [Version 10.0UV-U]
* ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp [Version 9.0EV-U]
* ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
* ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10]
* ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp [Version 10.]
* C9 bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D]
* ++ bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]
* CA bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp [Version 10.5EV-D]
* ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
* CB bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 0.993]
* CC TheOubliette.esp
* ++ Francesco's day lenght rescale 1-16.esp
* CD bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV]
* ++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68]
* CE bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
* CF Get Wet.esp
* ++ CoreRandmonClothing4Npcs.esp
* ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
* D0 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01]
* ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.8]
* D1 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
* D2 FormID Finder4.esp
* D3 kuerteeCleanUp.esp

= Cobl Rules
This ruleset covers Cobl (Common Oblivion) and related mods.

=== CONFIGURATION: Cobl Main.esm
x Cobl Glue.esp -- Glues Cobl items into vanilla lists, cells
x Cobl Si.esp -- Glues Cobl items into Shivering Isles cells.
o Cobl Tweaks.esp -- Adds Cobl items to creatures and NPCs.
x Cobl Races.esp -- Additional races, hairs, eyes.
+ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp -- Adds foods from various mods to the Dinner Plate. (Requires OBSE.)

thanks

» Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:18 am

I believe this is commonly caused by having a mod that alters the names of the vanilla races. You can use TES4View to check the race entries and see if they are altered.

Also, check to make sure that you have the two Voice BSA files and that both are registered in the bottom of the Oblivion.ini.

» Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:33 pm

Thanks for the help

I think I've tracked the problem down, following your advice when loading up ts4edit I noticed the following:-

[01:33] Background Loader: [Oblivion - Meshes.bsa] Loading Resources.[01:34] Background Loader: [Oblivion - Misc.bsa] Loading Resources.[01:34] Background Loader: [Oblivion - Sounds.bsa] Loading Resources.[01:34] Background Loader: [Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsa] Loading Resources.[01:35] Background Loader: [Oblivion - Voices1.bsa] Loading Resources.[01:37] Background Loader: Warning: [01:37] Background Loader: [DLCShiveringIsles - Meshes.bsa] Loading Resources.[01:37] Background Loader: [DLCShiveringIsles - Sounds.bsa] Loading Resources.[01:37] Background Loader: [DLCShiveringIsles - Textures.bsa] Loading Resources.[01:37] Background Loader: [DLCShiveringIsles - Voices.bsa] Loading Resources.

So I checked in Oblivion.ini and sure enough the "a" is missing from the Voices2 archive, I added it in but it never worked so I re-opened the Oblivion.ini and it was missing again which lead me to the conclusion that something was changing it which as it turns out is OBMM Archive Invalidation, here's what my Oblivion.ini shows:-

[Archive]SMasterMiscArchiveFileName=Oblivion - Misc.bsaSMasterVoicesArchiveFileName2=Oblivion - Voices2.bsaSMasterVoicesArchiveFileName1=Oblivion - Voices1.bsaSMasterSoundsArchiveFileName=Oblivion - Sounds.bsaSMasterTexturesArchiveFileName1=Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsaSMasterMeshesArchiveFileName=Oblivion - Meshes.bsaSInvalidationFile=ArchiveInvalidation.txtiRetainFilenameOffsetTable=1iRetainFilenameStringTable=1iRetainDirectoryStringTable=1bCheckRuntimeCollisions=0bInvalidateOlderFiles=1bUseArchives=1sArchiveList=..\obmm\BSARedirection.bsa, All Natural.bsa, Artifacts.bsa, FCOM_Convergence - MMM.bsa, FraNewItems.bsa, Oblivion - Meshes.bsa, Oblivion - Misc.bsa, Oblivion - Sounds.bsa, Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsa, Oblivion - Voices1.bsa, Oblivion - Voices2.bs

Any idea how to fix this?

Thanks

» Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:38 am

Disable that vile tool and use the real archive invalidation http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10724. That may work if not well you could try using archive invalidation the standard way...

» Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:14 am

sArchiveList=..\obmm\BSARedirection.bsa, FraNewItems.bsa, Oblivion - Meshes.bsa, Oblivion - Misc.bsa, Oblivion - Sounds.bsa, Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsa, Oblivion - Voices1.bsa, Oblivion - Voices2.bs[/code]

Any idea how to fix this?

Thanks

Remove these has they do not need to be added to Ini once again..There is a 255 character limit on sarchive line once again. So that explains that..

All Natural.bsa, Artifacts.bsa,

Rename FCOM_Convergence - MMM.bsa, to FCOM_Convergence_Mart'sMonsterMod.bsa

» Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:58 pm

That did the trick, thanks corepc