Game Will Not Load (savegames) : IV

» Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:08 pm

My game does not like to load savegames past the menu screen, and does not like to return to the menu screen.

Below is my mod list.

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  underdark.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9]03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm06  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]07  AFC v2 Core.esm08  Lamps of Oblivion Master.esm09  CM Partners.esm0A  Toaster Says Share v3.esm0B  HorseCombatMaster.esm0C  UnnecessaryViolence.esm0D  CURP_Controller.esm0E  TRoN.esp0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]10  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]11  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp12  DLCShiveringIsles.esp13  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]14  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]15  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp  [Version Final]17  AFC v2 Combo Chains.esp18  AFC v2 Locational Damage.esp++  Brighter_Torches.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]19  Lamps of Oblivion.esp1A  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 3.3.3]1B  FF_Real_Thirst.esp1C  Choices and Consequences.esp1D  DLCOrrery.esp1E  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]1F  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV3.esp20  ACCCGR SI.esp21  Hemingweys NPC Capes.esp22  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]23  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]24  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp25  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]26  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-DLT_Remover.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp  [Version 1.33]27  Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp  [Version 0.2]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp  [Version 1.35]28  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]29  Hemingweys NPC Capes for OOO and FCOM.esp2A  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]2B  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]2C  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]2D  Mage Equipment - OOO.esp2E  Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp++  Enhanced Quest Roleplaying - OOO.esp2F  BHC_Expanded.esp  [Version 1.2]30  kingdomofAlmar.esp31  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp32  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp33  KvatchRising.esp34  Sheogoraths_Accords_of_Madness.esp35  TheElderCouncil.esp36  TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp37  DLCfrostcrag.esp38  The Lost Spires.esp39  Blood&Mud.esp3A  Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp  [Version 1.0]3B  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 6.5]3C  TheNecromancer.esp3D  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.3]3E  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.1]3F  xulTheHeath.esp40  XulEntiusGorge.esp41  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]42  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2]43  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]44  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.2]45  KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp46  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]47  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]48  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.1]49  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]4A  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.1]4B  KragenirsDeathQuest-CloudtopMountains patch.esp4C  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.2]4D  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]4E  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]4F  KragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.esp50  xulPantherRiver.esp51  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.1]52  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]53  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.3]54  xulBlackwoodForest.esp55  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0]56  FightersGuildContracts.esp57  CUO_Chorrol.esp58  CUO_Leyawiin.esp59  CUO_Dwemer.esp5A  CUO_FightersGuildContracts_SAFE.esp5B  CUO_MerchantUpdate_SAFE.esp++  CUO_UnLeveledPotions.esp5C  CUO_NewFactionDialog_SAFE.esp5D  CUO_BadGuy_Specific_Loot_DIRTY.esp++  CUO_UnleveledGuards&Legioneers_DIRTY.esp5E  CUO_UnLeveledNPCs&Creatures.esp++  CUO_UnLeveledLoot.esp++  CUO_UnLeveledVendors.esp5F  DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp60  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.0]61  Oblivifall - Closing Time.esp  [Version 1.0]62  Oblivifall - Let's Talk!.esp  [Version 1.1]63  Oblivifall - New Classes.esp  [Version 1.0]64  Oblivifall - Something's Not Right.esp  [Version 1.0]65  ReneerNPCSneakMod.esp66  ReneerNPCNameMod.esp67  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]68  FriendsAndLovers.esp69  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]6A  Quest Award Leveller.esp6B  ConduitMagic.esp6C  SetEssentialActors.esp6D  Telekinetic Mastery.esp  [Version 2]6E  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]6F  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_EnableRestoreEnchanting.esp  [Version 0.80]70  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]71  MidasSpells.esp72  Midas Assimulator OOO.esp73  Midas Assimulator Shivering.esp++  Midas Reduced Costs Half.esp++  Midas PowDur3x.esp++  Midas Eldrich Power 6x.esp++  Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp74  Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp75  Advanced Magecraft.esp76  RenGuardOverhaul.esp77  RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp78  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp79  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp++  SM_DeadlyReflex.esp  [Version 0.86]7A  CDM-Character Generation Overhaul.esp7B  Kobu's Personality Enhancer.esp7C  Kobu's Health Modifier Mod.esp7D  Kobu's Cure for Fatigue Mod.esp  [Version 1.0.1]7E  Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp7F  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]80  CTAddPose_ bondage_six.esp81  CTAddPose_2ch_(Hentai).esp82  CTAddPose_gobu.esp83  CTAddPose_Dsk(erori)Pose.esp84  actors_in_charge.esp85  77_Umpa_Animation.esp86  EFGAddPose.esp87  OSR_pose.esp++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.76]88  CM Partners.esp89  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp8A  CM Partners NPC.esp8B  CM Partners More NPCs.esp8C  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp8D  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]8E  bgMagicEV.esp++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]8F  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]90  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp  [Version 9.0EV-U]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp  [Version 10]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, for Wrye Bash.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]91  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]92  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.993]**  bgIntegrationEV - Alternative NPC Faces by LazyMonk.esp  [Version 0.99]++  bgIntegrationEV - Unique Clothes.esp  [Version 0.99]**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]93  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp94  Hemingweys Capes.esp95  UnnecessaryViolence.esp96  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]97  StokerWolff.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9]98  Bashed Patch, 0.esp99  FormID Finder.esp9A  Streamline 3.1.esp9B  Anwolf Race.esp9C  bgIntegrationEV no Cell Reset Solution.esp9D  CM PTO stand-ins.esp

» Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:46 pm

Did you make any updates recently? Do you have any missing masters? Try rebuilding the bashed patch and see if Wrye Bash prints out anything suspicious about any of those plugins. Can you load this setup with a new save? Oh, what are those mods loading after Streamline. You should probably move the race and CM mod up with the others of their kind in your list. Is that integration mod supposed to load at the end?

» Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:14 am

Did you make any updates recently? Do you have any missing masters? Try rebuilding the bashed patch and see if Wrye Bash prints out anything suspicious about any of those plugins. Can you load this setup with a new save? Oh, what are those mods loading after Streamline. You should probably move the race and CM mod up with the others of their kind in your list. Is that integration mod supposed to load at the end?

Yes I made updates recently. No I do not have missing masters (appart from Cobl Filter and All Natural Filter, but those don't count since those are merge-only) Bash didn't print out anything suspicious when I rebuilt the patch.

THing is I start up the game, load a savegame from the menu. that I can do. However once I Load a savegame from the menu I cannot load a savegame again, else it CTDs.

just to clear it up.

Integration mod: I assume not but its there because Its a mod i'm working on myself.

» Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:46 pm

Are you trying to load a savegame that was made in the same cell where you currently are?

I mean, are you in the prison cell and trying to load a game that's also in the prison cell, for instance?

Because that's a long known problem. You have to exit to the menu in order to load a game from the same cell, otherwise the scripts choke and the game crashes.

» Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:16 am

Are you trying to load a savegame that was made in the same cell where you currently are?

I mean, are you in the prison cell and trying to load a game that's also in the prison cell, for instance?

Because that's a long known problem. You have to exit to the menu in order to load a game from the same cell, otherwise the scripts choke and the game crashes.

Sometimes yes, but it'll do this regardless.

Also brings up another thing: CTDs when I try to return to menu.

» Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:29 pm

I experienced that quite a bit after adding a lot of mods. I am not sure that this problem is the fault of any particular mod. I need to start playing again...