Reman I and II ...

Post » Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:57 am

I'm not sure if this has already been discussed; I used the search and nothing came up about this in particular. I was wondering how it could be that Reman II was born 32 years after Reman I's death.

1E 2762 Reman I of Cyrodiil dies.

1E 2794 Reman II is born.

Is this an error? Or was he not a direct heir, and rather some sort of distant relative? Or was there no relation at all? If someone knows where this information might be found I'd gladly take its' direction. Thanks in advance.
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Post » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:22 pm

A I or a II or a MXCIVLXIIWHATEVER after a rulers name doesn't necessarily mean a direct heir. It often means that the ruler has the same name as a previous one.

Take Erik XIII (Swedish king) for example. He was born over 40 years after Erik XII's death.
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Post » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:46 am

Or Uriel VII who is not even related to Uriel III


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Post » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:08 am

Or Uriel VII who is not even related to Uriel III
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Post » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:06 am

A I or a II or a MXCIVLXIIWHATEVER after a rulers name doesn't necessarily mean a direct heir. It often means that the ruler has the same name as a previous one.

Take Erik XIII (Swedish king) for example. He was born over 40 years after Erik XII's death.


This might be the best explanation we get, short of a clever retcon.
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Post » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:33 pm

M'Aiq is right (as always ;)):
The number after the name does in no way imply direct descendance or even blood relationship - the most striking real-life example being the Catholic popes, who are by definition very rarely related to each other, but go all the way down to John XXIII or Benedict XVI (both spanning c. 1400 years from the first of their name).

It's just a way to distinguish rulers with the same name.

As its often the custom to name a son after his father, grandfather or renowned ancestor, or on accession to assume a throne name that follows this custom, some names are often connected to certain dynasties, but you usually can't deduce relationship from shared names.
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Post » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:55 pm

It brings a question, who ruled Cyrodiil after Reman I?
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Post » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:45 am

Ramsies I and Ramsies II were seperated by another faro
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Post » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:05 am

some random dude not worth mentioning probably

Vicky: i read Afro instead of pharao :lol:
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Post » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:13 am

some random dude not worth mentioning probably

Vicky: i read Afro instead of pharao :lol:

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Post » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:49 am

It brings a question, who ruled Cyrodiil after Reman I?



The Eldercouncil or The wife of Reman I. Probebly the former because Reman II took his throne as soon as he came of age.
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Post » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:32 am

I think that the most likely answer is father of Reman II, but it is strange that we never heard of him because the period when the Reman dynasty ruled the Empire seems well documented so even when he was "some random dude not worth mentioning" we should know at least his name.
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Post » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:41 pm

I think that the most likely answer is father of Reman II, but it is strange that we never heard of him because the period when the Reman dynasty ruled the Empire seems well documented so even when he was "some random dude not worth mentioning" we should know at least his name.


For what it is worth, there are two graves in the Reman Ancestral Tomb that have illegible inscriptions.
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