Who is Lyg? : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:34 am

I'd like to know who Lyg is. "The Domain of the Upstart who vanished" reminds me of Lorkhan/Talos. I'm still trying to grasp how Dagon "threw down Lyg and cracked his face" and how this freed the Nineteen Voids (if that's even what Mankar was referring to in the Commentaries).

» Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:16 am

Lyg is Lorkhan.

His cracked face are the moons.

http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/lunar_lorkhan.shtml

» Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:01 am

Sh*t. I expected as much.

Where the hell did the name "Lyg" come from?

» Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:01 am

Got nothing on that, could be the name the Daedra gave to Lorkhan.

» Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:26 am

Oh. I was halfway thinking Ayleid, but I don't know.

Thanks.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:54 pm

I have another question that is similair to this one. in The seven fights of the aldudagga there is a reference to molag bal as the keeper of coldharbour since the fall of lyg. what does this mean? was molag bal not always the prince of coldharbour?

» Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:17 am

Since I can now safely say that Lyg is Lorkhan, Mundus wasn't created until Lyg "died."

But, seeing as Nords have a different view on Lorkhan (Shor and the Greedy Man are technically the same thing, yet they revere two these parts of him separately), it could be something SLIGHTLY different to them.

edit: As stated above, Lyg's death supposedly "freed" the Void of Oblivion.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:31 pm

Kinda like how Dagon stopped being a Leaper Demon, Ball got shipped off to Cold Harbor. There is a note in the Monomyth about this Second Creation of Daedra that followed the creation (or rather the becoming) of the Aedra.

» Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:27 am

Lyg was a super-entity that divided into Lorkhan and Jyggalag, in the same way that AE divided into Anu and Padhome.
http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=862853&hl=

» Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:41 am

Lyg was a super-entity that divided into Lorkhan and Jyggalag, in the same way that AE divided into Anu and Padhome.
http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=862853&hl=

So Time and Space and Order and Madness....that makes sense (except for the Magnus part).

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:46 pm

Lyg was a super-entity that divided into Lorkhan and Jyggalag, in the same way that AE divided into Anu and Padhome.
http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=862853&hl=

I still have my doubts. It certainly makes sense to some extent, but Lyg could still be something different.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:36 pm

But, seeing as Nords have a different view on Lorkhan (Shor and the Greedy Man are technically the same thing, yet they revere two these parts of him separately), it could be something SLIGHTLY different to them.

NOTE: The "Greedy Man" is not necessarily known outside the culture of the Skaal; same with the "All Father". It could easily be that, while the Skaal and mainline Nords descend from the same root, they took decidedly different paths.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:44 pm

Has it been determined or noted who wrote the Aldudagga?

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:25 pm

Has it been determined or noted who wrote the Aldudagga?

Michael Kirkbride, of course. :rolleyes:

Okay, there's my attempt at a joke for this evening. On a serious note, I do not think that the narrator and/or author of the Aldudagga has ever been identified, save that whomever it is is quite evidently of Nordic heritage. Other than that, I do not think that there's much else to go on.

___TWM

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:11 pm

Sorry, this probably has nothing to do with the topc, but could someone post a link to Skaal info particularly this "Greedy Man" and "All Father"?

» Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:58 am

Has it been determined or noted who wrote the Aldudagga?

It's an oral tradition- a campfire tale. The question is what busybody scholar transcribed it and got all the slang and translations wrong.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:56 pm

http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/aevar_stone_singer.shtml

Oh yeah. And http://www.imperial-library.info/fsg/briansarticle03.shtml.

» Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:15 am

http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/aevar_stone_singer.shtml

Oh yeah. And http://www.imperial-library.info/fsg/briansarticle03.shtml.

:blink: Aevar Stone-Singer isn't Redguard lore!? Hmmm. I shall have to read. Thank you, sir.