For Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and New Vegas, it is exactly the same. There is no difference. The story is the same. The game play is the same.
PC game has no differnece game play wise than the console version. So games on the console is just as good as on the PC

It depends almost entirely on three things

1. If you have or can afford a decent gaming PC (about $500 if you build it yourself).
2. If you want to have mods and access to the console commands.
3. If you don't mind/like doing driver updates and other PC maintenance.


Incorrect advantages of 360/PS3

1. Able to play on big screen TV and surround sound.
-You can hook both these things up to a modern PC just as easily.

2. Able to use a Joypad instead of clunky keyboard and mouse.
-With a few driver installs you can get the joypad working on a PC (but personally, I much prefer KB & M)

It really is very simple. If you can afford a PC to run it at optimum settings it will be better on the PC, graphically. Plus mods. That's the long and short of it. I'll be buying it for PS3 becuase for a cheap price it contains a lot of things I wanted, I accept the lower graphics and lack of modability as I opted for new TV and Surround Sound. If I could afford a half decent rig as well then I'd definitely be playing on that (although still with a joypad ).

What tweaking? If a PC's powerful enough to run the game well, it's going to run the game well whether or not you spend hours adjusting settings and tweaking features.


Kind of a weak argument. The fact that you can enjoy a game without better graphics doesn't mean that better graphics don't matter and aren't good to have.


This... isn't really true. There are games on PC that sell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverwinter_Nights.


Sorry, but you're not going to get away with misconstruing the fact that PC gamers have a way to deal with game-breaking glitches and bugs as a flaw for PCs.

IIRC when Fallout New Vegas was released, within the first week there were already several thousand mods available. Perhaps the modding community has grown since the initial release of Oblivion?

Obviously, some of these were simply meshes, etc., that were likely converted from FO3.

hmm...that depends of the model. There are either 2-cored ones up to 6.



By "some misc extras" I meant little things like memory management, bus speed and anything non-architecture related things. I'm not hiding any "Great Magical Feature" over here.



OK, like which ones?. Please, tell me how the x86 architecture has evolved over the years. And please ommit:

- New instruction sets (which are add-ons to the basic architecture).
- Clock speed.
- Number of cores.
- Bus speed.
- Memory management.

Just explain how the RAW x86 architecture has evolved those years. I'll be truly glad to hear it.

Ah, and please face the fact that even "x86-64" is nothing more than another extension to the x86 architecture, and not a new one. Just for the note.

And limit yourself to x86, which is an instruction set architecture by definition (hence why I insist so much in instruction sets), and not processor design.

Two extremely small mods, Harder hardcoe Rates (increases the eat/sleep/drink rate) and Expensive Wasteland (makes everything more expensive) made New Vegas game play exponentially more enjoyable for me. Otherwise, there was simply too much food and drink available, the PC does not need to sleep very often and it's too easy to become very rich.

Regarding Oblivion, and FO3, there are so many amazing mods that improve the game play there is not any point in listing them here, but they do things such as provide Full HD textures, gives all the NPCs realistic faces, Require the PC to eat/sleep/drink, overhaul the awkward leveling system, balance merchant prices add hundreds of hours of new content and quests, etc.

I'm so tempted to snark a jab at the console folks saying that the computer folks have better arguments - but mostly because they don't have to type their answers on a game pad. (joke)

But again second time I posted a proposed solution and no replies to it or arguments it could/couldn't work.

If it could wouldn't this go towards a compromise on the issue.

I don't know if other games have this option (the ability to set which version of DirectX a game is rendered with), but my favorite is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount%26Blade:_Warband, which as I see is not available on console.

Are there other games that allow for this? If so list them - lets show Bethesda precedence. Lets come up with solutions using technology, lets place ourselves in the design room with them and help think up a solution. This argument is drab - console gamers and PC gamers are likely not to agree on many things not even related to this.

this way Consoles can get their DirectX 9 joy and PC users (who would have the ability to have higher rendering) would get their, hopefully, DirectX 11 gasm.

Why are we arguing over which is better!? Im sure content will be the same across all three platforms. Which version you want depends on that users' needs, preferences and habits. For some that's console, for others its PC.
Personally I like PC, because of the interface, mods, and being able to tweak the settings and files. Many people, most people, dont care for that. And thats fine so they go for consoles. I'd say if you want to tweak,mods, and graphics then go with PC. If you want to pop the disc in and play, not really worried about how the game looks and just want to play the game then go with console. Nothing wrong with either choice.

As the OP made this topic based on deception it may as well finish now rather than drag on.

I will add that any platform bashing is not tolerated on these forums as the moderators have zero tolerance for any member who does.