Game Freezes Before Main Menu. : IV

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:58 pm

I've just installed Oblivion on my new computer, and instead of creating yet another character I wish to recover my save game and all the mods I used with it. The save file is currently elsewhere on my computer, so it's not the problem. The mods are all installed, but the game locks up at the loading screen or the gamesas logo. I have used BOSS. Here's my load order according to Wrye:

Active Mod Files:
? 00 Progress.esm [Version 2.2]
? Delinquent Master: Oblivion.esm
? 01 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
? Delinquent Master: Oblivion.esm
? 02 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
? Delinquent Master: Oblivion.esm
? 03 EnhancedWeather.esm [Version 1.3.7]
? Delinquent Master: Oblivion.esm
? 04 HorseCombatMaster.esm
? 05 Oblivion.esm
? 06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
? 07 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
? 08 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
? Delinquent Master: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
? 09 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
? 0A Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
? 0B FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]
? 0C Jog_X_Mod.esm
? 0D FrostcragRebornCobl.esp
? Delinquent Master: DLCFrostcrag.esp
? 0E Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]
? 0F Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
? 10 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
? 11 DLCHorseArmor.esp
? 12 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
? 13 EnhancedWeather.esp [Version 1.3.5]
? 14 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
? 15 quickstart.esp
? 16 EnhancedWeather - Darker Nights, 50.esp [Version Final]
? 17 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
? 18 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
? ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]
? 19 DLCOrrery.esp
? 1A DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
? 1B DLCFrostcrag.esp
? 1C DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
? 1D Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]
? 1E Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53]
? 1F Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53]
? 20 DLCThievesDen.esp
? 21 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
? 22 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
? 23 VA_BetterGold.esp
? 24 RealisticForceMedium.esp
? 25 DLCVileLair.esp
? 26 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
? 27 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
? 28 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
? 29 RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp
? 2A Louder Nirnroot Sound.esp
? 2B MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
? 2C OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
? 2D DLCSpellTomes.esp
? 2E DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
? 2F Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
? 30 mythsandlegends.esp
? 31 Knights.esp
? 32 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
? 33 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]
? 34 thievery.esp
? 35 Mighty Umbra.esp
? 36 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
? 37 ExnemRuneskulls.esp
? 38 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp
? 39 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? Delinquent Master: Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
? 3A Cliff_RankDependantArenaSpectators.esp [Version 1.0]
? 3B Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
? 3C Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]
? 3D Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0]
? 3E Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0]
? 3F Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0]
? 40 Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp
? 41 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
? 42 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
? 43 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
? 44 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
? 45 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
? 46 Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp
? 47 Blood&Mud.esp
? 48 Fort_Larsus.esp
? 49 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
? 4A Living Economy - SI.esp
? 4B Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp
? 4C Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
? 4D Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
? Delinquent Master: Harvest [Flora].esp
? 4E Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
? Delinquent Master: Harvest [Flora].esp
? 4F Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
? Delinquent Master: Harvest [Flora].esp
? 50 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
? 51 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 52 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 53 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 54 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 55 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 56 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 57 FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 58 FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 59 FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 5A FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 5B FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 5C FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 5D FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 5E FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 5F FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 60 FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 61 FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 62 FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 63 FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 64 FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 65 FCOM_Ruin.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 66 FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 67 FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]
? 68 The Lost Spires.esp
? 69 LetThePeopleDrink-Cobl.esp [Version 2.5]
? 6A Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp
? 6B OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
? 6C Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
? 6D DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
? 6E TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp [Version 1.39c]
? 6F TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
? 70 Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp [Version 1.39c]
? 71 TamrielTravellersFactionAll.esp [Version 1.39c]
? 72 TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c]
? 73 ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]
? 74 ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp [Version 1.39c]
? 75 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]
? 76 RTT.esp
? 77 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]
? ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]
? ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76]
? ++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp [Version 0.76]
? 78 Enhanced Weather - Ruined Tail's Tale Patch.esp [Version Final]
? 79 ProgressRBSP.esp [Version 1.0]
? 7A ProgressSBSP.esp [Version 1.0]
? 7B ProgressGSD.esp [Version 2.0]
? 7C ProgressMBSP.esp [Version 2.0]
? 7D ProgressArmorer.esp [Version 1.0]
? 7E Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp
? 7F MidasSpells.esp
? 80 Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp
? 81 Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp
? 82 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
? ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]

I don't know what it means by "Delinquent Master", or what to do about it. How do I fix this? Is there something missing from my mods, or something I shouldn't be using? Thanks in advance.

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:06 pm

Delinquent master means a mod is loading before one of its dependencies. That is problem what is causing this freeze. Just use the ctrl+up/down arrows to get it in the right place. Or make sure lock times is turned off and run BOSS (then turn lock times back on.)

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:49 pm

Aha, so that's what was stopping BOSS from working its magic. Thanks! =D

One last issue; Bashed Patch is skipping over Quest Award Leveling - Knights of the Nine due to some load error. Is this a problem, or can I ignore it?

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:49 am

What is the error exactly? I don't know why it would. I use that patch too.

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:32 am

Here's what Wrye says:

Load Error ModsThe following mods had load errors and were skipped while building the patch. Most likely this problem is due to a badly formatted mod. For more info, see Bashed Patch: Error Messages. ?  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:20 am

Oh, wow. Try re-downloading Quest Award Leveller. I have not seen that. Then again, I usually merge the Quest Award Leveller patches.

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:17 am

Still getting the error. Oblivion does run. Is this going to be a problem?

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:30 pm

I do not think so...You will just have to leave it activated, as it is not merged into the Bashed Patch.

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:20 am

That's fine by me.

Thanks for all the help. =D Hopefully, the next time I do this, and I just know i'll have to do this again, I will be able to do it on my own.

If I can't get my save files to work, I'll keep you posted.

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:28 am

My save file loaded. It gave me the usual warning when you run a save with missing mods. The first time, it told me OBSE was not running. I then ran the game through obse_loader, and at the same point at which it gave me the warning the first time, it locked up. Is there a way to find out which mods a savefile is expecting to see?

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:48 am

Look at the saves it Wrye Bash. Red boxes next to a plugin means it is missing.

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:22 pm

I've installed all the mods needed to run the save file. The save file is listed as orange now. All the mods in the list of mods that that save file uses are either blue or orange. When I run the save, I do not get the warning, but the game locks up after about two seconds upon loading.

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:13 pm

Did you run BOSS on this load order? Post it if you did. Otherwise, get BOSS, run it and then post again.

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:20 pm

I did.

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Jog_X_Mod.esm02  EnhancedWeather.esm  [Version 1.3.7]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm09  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0A  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]0B  Open Cities Resources.esm  [Version 3.2.1]0C  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0D  HorseCombatMaster.esm0E  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]0F  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]10  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp11  DLCShiveringIsles.esp12  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp16  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp17  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp18  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1A  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1B  EnhancedWeather.esp  [Version 1.3.5]1C  EnhancedWeather - Darker Nights, 50.esp  [Version Final]1D  Louder Nirnroot Sound.esp1E  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]1F  VA_BetterGold.esp20  Living Economy - SI.esp21  DLCHorseArmor.esp22  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]23  DLCOrrery.esp24  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]25  DLCVileLair.esp26  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]27  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp28  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]29  DLCSpellTomes.esp2A  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]2B  DLCThievesDen.esp2C  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2E  ExnemRuneskulls.esp2F  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9]30  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp31  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]32  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]33  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]34  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]35  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp36  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]37  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp38  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]39  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp3A  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3B  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]3C  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3D  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3E  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3F  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]40  FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]41  TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp  [Version 1.39c]42  Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]43  TamrielTravellersFactionAll.esp  [Version 1.39c]44  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]45  TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp  [Version 1.39c]46  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]47  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]48  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]49  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]4A  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4B  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4C  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4D  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4E  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4F  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]50  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]51  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]52  Fort_Larsus.esp53  LetThePeopleDrink-Cobl.esp  [Version 2.5]54  thievery.esp55  Cliff_RankDependantArenaSpectators.esp  [Version 1.0]56  DLCFrostcrag.esp57  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]58  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp59  Knights.esp5A  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]5B  RTT.esp5C  Enhanced Weather - Ruined Tail's Tale Patch.esp  [Version Final]5D  The Lost Spires.esp5E  Mighty Umbra.esp5F  Blood&Mud.esp60  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.9]61  FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]62  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]63  FCOM_Ruin.esp  [Version 0.9.9]64  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [Version 0.9.9]65  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp66  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]67  mythsandlegends.esp68  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]69  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]6A  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]6B  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]6C  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]6D  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]6E  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp6F  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]70  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp  [Version 2.1.0]71  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp  [Version 2.1.0]72  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 2.1.0]73  quickstart.esp74  RealisticForceMedium.esp75  RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp76  MidasSpells.esp77  Harvest [Flora] - Patch.esp78  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp79  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp7A  Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp7B  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp7C  Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp7D  ProgressGSD.esp  [Version 2.0]7E  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]7F  ProgressSBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]80  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]81  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]82  RealisticLeveling.esp83  Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.76]84  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]85  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]86  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]87  Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]88  Bashed Patch, 0.esp89  Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:06 pm

I did.

07 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
0A FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]

18 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
19 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

85 Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53]
86 Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53]

88 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Since you are using MMM 3.7b3p3 you need to be using the UFCOM that is posted in post 2 of FCOM thread..Required..

Did you rename the MMM.bsa has needed? under fcom it would be named fcom_covnergence_mart'smonstermod.bsa

Let make sure you get right Version and you get

Sounds like you need to read up on bash has well. Has

fcom_francesco.esp / itemaddon.esp can be merged

Cob Races TNR / TNR SI should not be activated in load order, they should be selected under import faces in bash patch options.

Corepc

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:53 pm

I'll go get that file, then.

I cannot find any MMM.bsa file. It's not in the package I downloaded or in my Data folder.

I've done what you said I should do regarding TNR.

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:47 pm

I'll go get that file, then.

I cannot find any MMM.bsa file. It's not in the package I downloaded or in my Data folder.

I've done what you said I should do regarding TNR.

Follow the link in Corepc's sig to the latest MMM thread, and download the 3.7 BSA. That's the latest version of the data files.

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:11 am

I've followed your instructions. The game still locks up a few seconds after loading the save. Here is my current load order:

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Jog_X_Mod.esm02  EnhancedWeather.esm  [Version 1.3.7]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm09  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0A  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0B  Open Cities Resources.esm  [Version 3.2.1]0C  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0D  HorseCombatMaster.esm0E  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]0F  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]10  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp11  DLCShiveringIsles.esp12  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp16  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp17  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp18  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1A  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1B  EnhancedWeather.esp  [Version 1.3.5]1C  EnhancedWeather - Darker Nights, 50.esp  [Version Final]1D  Louder Nirnroot Sound.esp1E  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]1F  VA_BetterGold.esp20  Living Economy - SI.esp21  DLCHorseArmor.esp22  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]23  DLCOrrery.esp24  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]25  DLCVileLair.esp26  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]27  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp28  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]29  DLCSpellTomes.esp2A  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]2B  DLCThievesDen.esp2C  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2E  ExnemRuneskulls.esp2F  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9]30  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp31  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]32  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]33  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]34  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]35  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp36  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]37  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp38  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]39  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp3A  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]3B  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]3C  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]3D  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3E  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3F  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]40  FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]41  TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp  [Version 1.39c]42  Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]43  TamrielTravellersFactionAll.esp  [Version 1.39c]44  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]45  TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp  [Version 1.39c]46  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]47  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]48  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]49  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]4A  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4B  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4C  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4D  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4E  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4F  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]50  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]51  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]52  Fort_Larsus.esp53  LetThePeopleDrink-Cobl.esp  [Version 2.5]54  thievery.esp55  Cliff_RankDependantArenaSpectators.esp  [Version 1.0]56  DLCFrostcrag.esp57  DLCFrostcrag - 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» Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:28 am

Alright, there's somethig I've got to ask. Are the instructions for installing FCOM on the FCOM website still adequate? Is there a better, or more complete guide to installing FCOM? I'm currently making the OMOD installers for MMM and FCOM, and I will use them if I end up reinstalling Oblivion. Then I will install the mods I want methodically so that I am certain that the game works before each following step. I have a feeling I screwed up to that degree somewhere.

I also wish to mention that the game does work on a fresh start. I am prepared to give up on saluaging my save if there is no way you can help me further.

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:24 am

You FCOM installation looks fine, but I think you need to read the TT installation instructions. I also recommend getting the MMM DiverseRuneSkulls module to replace Exnem's. It was incorporated v3.7.

» Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:41 am

I redid my FCOM et al. installation. I now have DRS, and have removed Exnem's Runeskulls. The game works, but I've started a new save, and I think I want to stick with it. I haven't tested out the old save, and I no longer desire to salvage it.

Thanks for the help, Tom.