Legal? : Othor Games

» Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:32 pm

I am strongly opposed to illegal activity/objects, and so if I have doubts about the legal status of an activity/object, I must check to find it out. This is about one such object. I was browsing through Youtube and on several of the videos, people mentioned something that converts Youtube videos to MP3s. Does anyone know if that is legal or not?

» Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:37 pm

I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to download Youtube videos as either videos or MP3s.

» Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:25 pm

certain videos you are allowed to download, Youtube provides a way to download these ones, usually have to pay to download too.

Beyond those select few, though, it is a violation of the terms and conditions of Youtube (and in many cases: copyright) to download the videos.

» Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:31 pm

If I recall, if it is legal and the creator of the video is willing, there will be an option in Youtube to download the video or audio directly. Though I may be mistaken.

» Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:55 am

I'm not a lawyer, but I'd imagine You would need the permission of the person who owns the Audio in most places (ie- if the audio is a song, you need the persmission of the folks that own the copyright of the song)

If in doubt, don't.

» Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:17 pm

Well you technically download every video you watch on youtube, iirc when I used Opera for a while, it kept cache files of streaming video and audio, which I could watch/listen to offline.

» Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:35 pm

Well you technically download every video you watch on youtube, iirc when I used Opera for a while, it kept cache files of streaming video and audio, which I could watch/listen to offline.

Same here. Can watch videos offline.

» Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:29 pm

I am strongly opposed to illegal activity/objects, and so if I have doubts about the legal status of an activity/object, I must check to find it out. This is about one such object. I was browsing through Youtube and on several of the videos, people mentioned something that converts Youtube videos to MP3s. Does anyone know if that is legal or not?

You mean like Youtube to MP3? I won't link the sites because I'm quite sure it's just as illegal as Limewire is now. In theory, since so many songs have videos either made by the artists or just random people putting their own "artistic" vids up on YouTUbe, it can become even more effective than Limewire because DL times would not be nearly as long for songs with few sources.

However, like Limewire use to be, I don't think it's technically illegal to do so.... at this time.

» Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:41 am

idk. sometimes i need videos from youtube for school and i use the firefox app :shrug:

» Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:19 am

Sounds like Questionable Activity to me.

You should try it, anyways. I doubt that you will be caught.

» Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:13 pm

However, like Limewire use to be, I don't think it's technically illegal to do so.... at this time.

Nope, it is technically illegal. Just like EULAs are court-enforcable so are ToS/T&C

http://www.youtube.com/t/terms

Content is provided to you AS IS. You may access Content for your information and personal use solely as intended through the provided functionality of the Service and as permitted under these Terms of Service. You shall not download any Content unless you see a “download” or similar link displayed by YouTube on the Service for that Content. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, or otherwise exploit any Content for any other purposes without the prior written consent of YouTube or the respective licensors of the Content. YouTube and its licensors reserve all rights not expressly granted in and to the Service and the Content.

Well you technically download every video you watch on youtube, iirc when I used Opera for a while, it kept cache files of streaming video and audio, which I could watch/listen to offline.

Technically true for the flash-based Youtube, but not true for webM-based Youtube. Flash based youtube uses "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_download".

» Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:37 pm

Well you technically download every video you watch on youtube, iirc when I used Opera for a while, it kept cache files of streaming video and audio, which I could watch/listen to offline.

Reminds me of when I deleted something accidentally and used an undeleter tool to try and recover it. It came up with all sorts of stuff like avatars from this forum and a couple of Youtube videos.

» Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:49 pm

So technically now you're going to report them and thus being a grass?

» Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:26 pm

Also depends on the country you live in, since national law supersedes a Tos. If it's okay to download it in a certain country, youtube can claim all they want being illegal, but no ones going to go to jail for it in said country.

just saying..

» Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:08 pm

Depends on the person I think. Doug Walker (Thatguywiththeglasses) said at a convention:

"you can take footage I don't care Im not a copyright nazi"

» Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:56 am

Also depends on the country you live in, since national law supersedes a Tos. If it's okay to download it in a certain country, youtube can claim all they want being illegal, but no ones going to go to jail for it in said country.

just saying..

Hooray for the Netherlands :celebration:

» Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:08 pm

With playlists you achieve the exact same effect as with downloading. You can save them, share them and make them public.

There just isn't any control over the actual content.. :shrug:

» Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:01 am

With playlists you achieve the exact same effect as with downloading. You can save them, share them and make them public.

There just isn't any control over the actual content.. :shrug:

Aye, I have a few playlists on there; but I also used an mp3 converter and wrote a few of the playlists onto CD to listen to in my car, which I imagine is why most people use the mp3 converter function.

» Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:14 pm

Irrespective of the supposedly different laws of different countries, these forums are run from the USA and as such discussions here will relate to US law. Discussion of and admission of breaking the ToS of You Tube by downloading videos and copyright material will not be permitted. Admission of illegal activity also breaks the ToS of these forums.