Freeze after character creation screen : IV

» Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:15 am

So, I need help, cause my game freezes shortly after creating a character in prison, strange to me, because i activated main quest delayer. Also my character is stretched and looking up, in previously mentioned screen.

Heres my load order

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  GTAesgaard_2.esm02  Cybiades.esm  [Version 2.0]03  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3]04  Open Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.0.1]05  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]06  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]07  battlemagearmor2-0Base.esm08  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]09  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]0A  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]0B  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0C  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0D  Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm  [Version 3.0b]0E  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm0F  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.5]10  Bab.esm  [Version FINAL]11  HorseCombatMaster.esm12  ScreenEffects.esm13  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.5]14  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp15  DLCShiveringIsles.esp16  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.2]17  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]18  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp19  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp1A  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1B  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1C  LoadingScreens-AddOn.esp1D  NewLoadingScreens.esp1E  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.3]1F  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3]20  Realistic Water.esp21  OBGE - Liquid Water.esp22  PCSoundSillth.esp  [Version 2.6]23  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3]24  WindowLightingSystem.esp25  Adonnays Ranger Coats.esp26  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp++  BrighterTorches_v1.2.esp27  diversegrasses.esp28  Personality Idles - Modified version.esp  [Version 1.5]29  ShezriesTowns1pt1.esp2A  Reznod_Mannequin.esp2B  DynamicLeveledLists.esp2C  Enhanced Seasons.esp  [Version 1.3.1]2D  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.42]2E  ScreenControls.esp2F  Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp30  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.0]31  Improved Hotkeys.esp  [Version 1.1]32  DLCHorseArmor.esp33  DLCOrrery.esp34  DLCVileLair.esp35  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp36  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]37  Book Jackets DLC.esp38  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp++  Bab.esp  [Version RC1]++  battlemagearmor2-0 vanilla loot.esp39  battlemagearmor2-0 compatability loot.esp3A  Battledress.esp  [Version 1.2]3B  Nicos Dreadweave Armor_Light.esp3C  EY_BM_Armory.esp3D  pale_rider's Armory of the Berserker.esp3E  Shdw_Armor pack01.esp3F  Shdw_Armor pack02.esp40  Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp41  SK_Berserk_v0.6.esp42  Vvardenfell_Imports.esp43  OC+Imports Patch.esp44  Thieves Arsenal.esp++  Thieves_Arsenal_Patch_033010.esp45  Mage Equipment.esp46  Command Mount.esp47  Zira's Horse Modpack - 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Fallenleaf Everglade EV - Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]9C  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]9D  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]9E  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]9F  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.3]A0  Tales Elsweyr Anq Bravil Barrowfields Patch.espA1  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]A2  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]A3  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]A4  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]A5  Ravenview-Cloudtop-Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]A6  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]A7  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]A8  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]A9  xulPantherRiver.espAA  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]AB  Valenwood Improved - River Ethe EV - Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]AC  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]AD  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.7]AE  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]AF  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]B0  TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.espB1  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.espB2  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]B3  Lakewood+AspenWood Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]B4  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]B5  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]B6  xulCliffsOfAnvil.espB7  NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp  [Version 5.0.1]B8  ImpeREAL Empire - 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pimped up version.espF1  Zira's Horse Modpack - Armored Legion Horses.espF2  Note to Self.espF3  Cybiades.esp  [Version 2.1]F4  P1DlookHereYou.espF5  CybiadesDungeon.esp  [Version 2.1]F6  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

It may be long, but any help will be appreciated

» Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:17 pm

Character is stretched? you have an issue with skeleton not matching body parts. A re-install is necessary.

Looks like you need to reinstall AMB, maybe check out Muscular for Roberts Male on tesnexus for armor to match your new body.

Use BOSS, or search "load order" for tutorial on load order. M.O.E.new classes might need to be lower in the order, or merged in Bash.

But yeah, the stretched out PC is from AMB not installed in proper order. If there is no "skeleton.kf" in AMB folders, get http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=37596 .

I get a crash after character creation whenever a new race is used too...try OSR (Oblivion Stutter Remover) and Steamline 3.1. Streamline has Streamsave and Streampurge, used with OSR and most if not all CTD have been eliminated for me. The Streamsave will make a save right as this crash happens, and you will be able to load the saved game. Most likely, its the amount of scripts that run once a new character is made that causes the crash. For example, DR5 and UV and two or three other mods that require input from the player running at the same time.

Knowing what you installed last would help with diagnosing your trouble, also. Good luck!

» Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:53 pm

Hmm, thanks for helping me fixing that problem with models, i think ill just make a new installation without overloading it with mods. Much appreciatedf.

» Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:24 am

Or at least test in game before going to next mod install. You do have an impressive load order, there is where you will find most troubles. Also, installs should be done in a logical order...and make sure to read the descriptions so not to miss a required file. Good luck, happy gaming.