Again, is Bethesda willing to piss off most of its fanbase with another Fallout game? A TES game is long overdue.

[quote name='westoftherockies' date='28 July 2010 - 10:53 AM' timestamp='1280310832' post='16211556']
[quote name='xXAntibodyXx' date='27 July 2010 - 08:15 PM' timestamp='1280286954' post='16210891']
Yep, I knew it.


you're out to lunch on this.[/quote]

Mr Pot, meet Mr Kettle.


[quote] fallout 3 is the best selling bethesda game of all time[/quote]

Inaccurate statement. Fallout 3 had big sales yes, but compared to other Bethesda games it's going to seem that way. After all its the first one to release on three platforms at the SAME TIME.

Anything prior to Morrowind - PC only.
Morrowind - PC and Xbox only.
Oblivion - PC and Xbox 360 initially. PS3 version released much later due to the late release of the PS3 itself.



[quote]and hugely more popular than fallout 1 and 2 combined [/quote]

Which were PC only.


[quote]and has made loads more money then all the other fallout games put together [/quote]

Of course its going to make Bethesda more money than the previous games did SINCE THEY DIDN'T MAKE THEM! :facepalm:

[quote]and bethesda even has obsidian working on the series[/quote]

So they can concentrate on other projects.

[quote]. so you just can't see the writing on the wall, a game a massively succesful as fallout 3 has been is gonna keep getting lots of attention because people like the post apocalyptic atmosphere, its a pretty unique game and bethesda hit a grand slam with it and why you think they are gonna now wait 5 years to make fallout 4 is so far from reality its not even funny.[/quote]

What is funny is that you have still failed to provide a source for your quoting, Either provide a source or stop repeating it.

West as "wonderful" as a Fallout title every TWO years might seem, I assure you Bethesda would be doing the opposite of strengthening the Fallout people know and love. In reality, Bethesda would kill the series, again, if they were to follow this two year idea you seem to have.

(I am sorry for what you are about to read, but I feel it is needed so I might try to explain to West that he is wrong.)
I will now attempt to explain why TES : V, in my mind, will be released before Fallout IV.


Pete Hines: We're very serious about bringing Fallout back to the forefront of RPGs in a major way.
First of all, West, I would like you to attempt to find the origin of this quote so that I, and other skeptics, might test it's validity in the argument/discussion. (Once I have posted this comment, I to will try and find that damned quote.)

http://movies.xboxfaction.com/articles/226/fallout-3-interview

Secondly, the apperance of the previous Fallout titles on store shelves and Interplay's desire to produce their own Fallout title is enough to convince me that Falout is at the forefront. (Not to mention your own cult-like devotion to Fallout)

And finaly, I personally do not think that Bethesda would want to anger their rather large TES related fan base by denying them the eagerly awaited TES V.

I said five years.. never said Beth said it.

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never mind the rest.

The bottom line is indeed that we have 2 Fallout games in 2 year period. And to think there would be a 3rd in other 2 years, seems unwise to me when considering what kind of game we're talking about here - the magnitude of it. Too much work in too little time. The series will stagnate.

Now, I'm not all that much wanting ESV, but I do want Bethesda to take it's time with the new Fallout so that it will be worth the wait and not just Ok. Learn from the mistakes of the earlier games and thinking it through instead of pulling halfassed substitutes (like: vague directions turned to nosepulling questcompass instead of giving better directions, perfectyly fine fast travel turned to instateleport, the number of skills and their effects drastically cut down, and in addition rehasing the story elements from previous games, rehasing stuff from TES, braking their own story ending and fixing it with even worse ending and unbalancing the game even more...). That said, I'm not expecting miracles or them to make the bestest game evar, but I do wish they took their time and thought everything through better this time around.

End of rant, got a bit carried away there.

I'm not going to guess years, but I do hope it more than just 2 years. In other words, as long as it takes to make the next game feel fresh.

[quote name='UnDeCafIndeed' date='28 July 2010 - 10:51 AM' timestamp='1280339468' post='16212441']
The bottom line is indeed that we have 2 Fallout games in 2 year period. And to think there would be a 3rd in other 2 years, seems unwise to me when considering what kind of game we're talking about here - the magnitude of it. Too much work in too little time. The series will stagnate.

bethesda has made only one fallout game and you're talking about the series stagnating. ? its bethesdas best selling game EVER it was a SUPER HUGE success and has made them more money then any game they have ever made and loads of people bought it and are still playing it, it was the game of the year, and you think bethesda is gonna wait 7 years between fallout 3 and fallout 4, you might get bored with the series after new vegas but game sales is gonna do the speaking as to whether the series gets stagnant or not, bethesda has only made one fallout game and you're alread talking about the series becoming stagnant, maybe its not your type of game, but its bethesda's best selling game of all time and that was with their first attempt at a fallout game so its WAY too early to talk about the series becoming stagnant, Fallout is a Gold Mine in bethesdas hands.

Yes, and now we have another quite similiar experience - with few tweaks - to come in few months. And after 2 years you'd want yet another quite similiar product with few tweaks? I'd think it'd only help the sales if you let the dust settle for a moment and come up with something better when the time comes. And I did not mention 7 years. If you want an opinion about when the game should come out, I'd say 4 years after NV.

It is, actually, my type of game (I have my gripes as so many others, yes, but all of those can be fixed at least to a degree if they're willing to do so as most of the gripes on these forums and others are not unreasonable). And that's why I wouldn't want them to carpet bomb the market with similiarities and (even) partial rehashes in hopes for easy money, but instead make something even remotely fresh. If it is good, it's worth the wait. And I'd dare to say it's of their advantage.

Anyway. You keep going, I've made my point.

I wont bother typing out a long paragraph for you because you either don't read long posts or ignore them so you can keep thinking "A Fallout every 2 years for forever and ever, lalalalala...", so I'll just break it down for you:

Bethesda's best selling game= Fallout 3
Bethesda's best selling series= The Elder Scrolls

Bethesda's biggest fanbase= The Elder Scrolls

How many years since a TES game?= 4 1/2
How many years since a Fallout game? 0 years, 0 days and 0 minutes starting in October when New Vegas is released.

What makes the most sense, when looking at the facts, for Bethesda's next game?= TES V
What makes the most sense, when you take two quotes and blow them out of proportion, for Bethesda's next game?= Nope, still TES V.

Ill repeat what i said a little way back.

From a moneymaking perspective the best thing to do would be to make a new TES game while Obsidian make the new Fallout game.
This means that they get income from both fanbases in short succession, this is much more logical.


You keep repeating this same old quote, but fail to state how a 4/5 year wait for the game to be released would infact prevent the quote from being true.

[quote name='Calgone' date='28 July 2010 - 04:40 PM' timestamp='1280360403' post='16213575']
Ill repeat what i said a little way back.

From a moneymaking perspective the best thing to do would be to make a new TES game while Obsidian make the new Fallout game.
This means that they get income from both fanbases in short succession, this is much more logical.
:wacko:
you're repeating the same thing, what i hear some saying is bethesda is gonna wait 7 years between fallout 3 and fallout 4, their best selling game of all time and they're not gonna follow it up for 7 years, thats totally unrealistic, lets carry out your logic ok, if they make a new fallout game every 7 years (which is what you're saying since 5 years from now would make it 7 years between fallout 3 and fallout 4) then really they will only make 3 more fallout games in the next 21 years !!! see the breakdown in that logic, so you're predicting 3 fallout games over the course of the next 20 + years. i don't think so, there is absoloutely no basis for that at all, regardless of what happens with ESV, 3 fallout games in the next 21 years is like a snail moving along and i don't think the game of the year and bethesdas best selling game of all time will only get 3 follow up games in the next 20 years. oy vey. :swear:

Yeah, my guess is it's going to be a new Elder Scrolls game before we see a Fallout 4. I mean, "oh no! I have to wait longer for Fallout 4!" But the Elder Scrolls fans (you know, the guys that kind of the primary reason Bethesda even had enough money to do a Fallout game in the first place) have already been waiting somewhere around 4 years for another installment of "their" series.

To myself, it seems rather intuitive that having Obsidian put out another Fallout title means the... "hype" for Fallout can go just that much longer before it starts to run out of steam; can longer stay in the collective consciousness of the fanbase.

This thread has gone around the block with the same arguments and not listening to each other etc., enough times. I'm giving it a rest.