I had to uninstall FO3 and remove everything related to it (mods, saves) and now I've reinstalled it. I've been experiencing random crashes that happen at no specific time/event. I'm running GotY edition with the latest FOSE release on medium settings (strong computer). My modlist:

[X] Fallout3.esm
[X] Anchorage.esm
[X] ThePitt.esm
[X] BrokenSteel.esm
[X] PointLookout.esm
[X] Zeta.esm
[X] CRAFT.esm
[X] CALIBR.esm
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.esp
[X] WeaponModKits.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - Scope Increases VATS Accuracy.esp
[X] Stealth Kills Enabled.esp
[X] Stealth Kills Enabled - Pitt Compatibility.esp
[X] CASM.esp
[X] Arwen_SmarterAI.esp
[X] Arwen_Less_Is_More.esp
[X] Arwen_Reduced_QuestXPR.esp
[X] Fellout-Full.esp
[X] FLAK.esp
[X] BypassOpAnchorage.esp
[X] AdvancedReconGear.esp
[X] NoLockTopic.esp
[X] Fast_but_dramatic_VATS_0.9.esp
[X] VatsLongerDistance.esp
[X] 3EFhelmlessstealthsuit.esp
[X] NPCs Sleep Tighter.esp
[X] zeta_alien_fix.esp
[X] UWWUT.esp
[X] UWWUT - Broken Steel Addon.esp
[X] UWWUT - The Pitt Addon.esp
[X] UWWUT - WMK Addon.esp
[X] patch.esp

The last one is a merged pach created with FO3Edit. Any ideas what's wrong?

try this load order. It is based personal test along with load orders from BOSS and FOMMS. It should be a little more stable.

And i would suggest getting greybash and use his bashed patch. much more effective.

[X] Fallout3.esm
[X] Anchorage.esm
[X] ThePitt.esm
[X] BrokenSteel.esm
[X] PointLookout.esm
[X] Zeta.esm
[X] CRAFT.esm
[X] CALIBR.esm
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
[X] CASM.esp
[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.esp
[X] WeaponModKits.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - Scope Increases VATS Accuracy.esp
[X] UWWUT.esp
[X] UWWUT - Broken Steel Addon.esp
[X] UWWUT - The Pitt Addon.esp
[X] UWWUT - WMK Addon.esp
[X] Stealth Kills Enabled.esp
[X] Stealth Kills Enabled - Pitt Compatibility.esp
[X] Arwen_SmarterAI.esp
[X] Arwen_Less_Is_More.esp
[X] Arwen_Reduced_QuestXPR.esp
[X] BypassOpAnchorage.esp
[X] NPCs Sleep Tighter.esp
[X] zeta_alien_fix.esp
[X] AdvancedReconGear.esp
[X] NoLockTopic.esp
[X] Fast_but_dramatic_VATS_0.9.esp
[X] VatsLongerDistance.esp
[X] 3EFhelmlessstealthsuit.esp
[X] Fellout-Full.esp
[X] FLAK.esp
[X] patch.esp

by the way is [X] WeaponModKits - Scope Increases VATS Accuracy.esp in the WMK or is it a tweak developed by another modder?

Hey not often I see my own mods in someones load order.

@mouse0270
Thanks, and that WeaponModKits - Scope Increases VATS Accuracy.esp is mod I made recently (does not case crashes - tested).

@Uglulyx
Everyone should use your FLAK

Let me know if that helps any. if not I will try to look into the problem some tonight when I get home.

Well, it was working until 5 minutes ago. The game crashed as CASM was saving. I reloaded the last save, went to Moira to sell some things, and as I closed the trade screen it crashed again...

CASM is fine where it is at. Should work flawlessly. Here are some suggestions -
Make sure you are running the latest stable version of http://fose.silverlock.org/
Don't use the FO3Edit patch go download and setup http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=11336
-- after installing garybash, use its bashed patch by right click on the esp and select merge patch or rebuild patch. doing this off memory because I am at work.
---- Garybash bash patch has been more stable for me then FO3Edit patch. I run about 243 mods including FWE, FOOK, WMK, and MMM, the last time I check my play time was 92 Hours and I have not experienced a single crash.

Using the load order I provided it should all work together.


the only thing that I can see that would have anything to do with the trade menu is http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1077483-wipzbeta-darnified-ui-f3/ I would verify if you have the latest version a11 with hot fix.

[X] UWWUT.esp
[X] UWWUT - Broken Steel Addon.esp
[X] UWWUT - The Pitt Addon.esp
[X] UWWUT - WMK Addon.esp

There is no real point in using those as FWE changes a lot (most?) of the unique weapons.

[X] Arwen_Less_Is_More.esp

You can adjust the amount of loot you get in FWE 5.0, but using it shouldn't cause any issues.

[X] Stealth Kills Enabled.esp
[X] Stealth Kills Enabled - Pitt Compatibility.esp
[X] BypassOpAnchorage.esp
[X] NPCs Sleep Tighter.esp
[X] zeta_alien_fix.esp
[X] AdvancedReconGear.esp
[X] NoLockTopic.esp
[X] Fast_but_dramatic_VATS_0.9.esp
[X] VatsLongerDistance.esp
[X] 3EFhelmlessstealthsuit.esp
[X] FLAK.esp

None of those "should" cause any crashes, but I haven't used any of them either, the rest of your mods are the same ones I am using and I haven't had any crashes in the 32 hours I have been playing the game. I don't know if you have hunting and looting turned on in FWE MMM control panel but that use to cause random crashes for me, like the ones you seem to have. I could crash just standing around, going through a door talking to someone, dont know why but turning it off fixed all of mine.

I don't use MMM...

Anyways, I created a Bashed Patch and my game still crashes when CASM saves.... Any ideas?

EDIT: So I disabled CASM and started playing without it. I saved fine, finished a dialog, traded, killed some mole rats but when I saved again (the vanilla way) the game crashed...

EDIT2: After some testing I was ale to conclude that the game crashes after I auto travel and then CASM saves. I started a new character and that didn't happen. Is my save corrupt? Do I need to start fresh?

If its not crashing on the new save and only your old save.....It does sounds like something is wrong with your old save.

I'm on my new save and I have not experienced any crashes. I'll continue on it (I was only level 3 on my old save). Thanks for your help. I have one question, if I install new mods, do I need to rebuild the Bash Patch?

You do not need to rebuild it but its better if you do. It wont do anything to your save.

You also need to rebuild it if you delete a mod.