author/s of the elder scrolls?

Post » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:28 am

guys, the reason i asked this qwestion was because i was curious as to whether or not there is a higher power in the elder scrolls universe than aedra and daedra. my guess is that when it talks about exceeding the gods, bethesda is referring to itself in third-person because they did create the elder scrolls. therefore they exceed the aedra and daedra because they created them. if it is not referring to bethesda in "the pension of the ancestor moths", i am curious as to what power could be higher than the gods? this is the only explanation i could come up with. perhaps it is a qwestion that will never be answered.

I would say the Magna'Ge is "stronger" than the Aedra and the Daedra, for they are free from boundaries. But they also, from what we know, lack any way to express their "power", or anything to exert their "power" on, so in reality, they are also weaker than the Aedra and the Daedra.

Anu and Padomay could also be considered "stronger" than the gods, but they are not self concious in the same way and thus they also lack real power.

There is also the God-head, of who's dreams all things TES are made. The God-Head is the "creator" of all things, because they are all in his head. One could say he wrote the Elder Scrolls, because he is dreaming up the stories which are told in the games.

However, I think that, maybe, the expression (that the writings exceed the aedra/daedra) should not be taken litterary. It's just means they're very important.
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i'v always wondered, who wrote the elder scrolls? i picked up a book (can't remember the name of it) in the chapel building of the ancestor moth temple and it said the elder scrolls exceed the gods, both aedra and daedra. just wondering if anyone knows.

You did.
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Post » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:25 am

Perhaps a breaking of the Fourth Wall explains this.

In other words, Bethesda did. It is their virtual, fictional world, that they created with their own imagination, and they are the only ones I can think of who transcend aedra, daedra, or mortal.
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Post » Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:34 pm

exceed: To be greater than, surpass


not "To be older than, predate"

I would say that exceed means the scrolls are greater than the gods, that they have power over everything. what they say (which from some articles seems they say a variety of possibilities) has dominion over everything, and can't be messed with. If the scrolls say Dagon is going to go smash someone, he is going to. That's it. At least that is my opinion.
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Post » Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:12 am

So, who wrote the Elder Scrolls? [You] did.



Yep, that's been the idea from the start. Every hero of the game write's his own Elder Scroll simply by exploring and doing things in the world. You may not take out a scroll and write on it yourself but by existing, your scroll is created in past and future and the monk's can read those scrolls and know a possible past and future.

This is possibly a weasel way to explain how my character could be a Breton dark brotherhood assassin who saves the empire and yours could be a great knight and fighter. Because the scrolls show the possible outcomes but only time can reveal what scroll comes true.
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Post » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:49 pm

Perhaps a breaking of the Fourth Wall explains this.

In other words, Bethesda did. It is their virtual, fictional world, that they created with their own imagination, and they are the only ones I can think of who transcend aedra, daedra, or mortal.

Yep, that's been the idea from the start. Every hero of the game write's his own Elder Scroll simply by exploring and doing things in the world. You may not take out a scroll and write on it yourself but by existing, your scroll is created in past and future and the monk's can read those scrolls and know a possible past and future.

This is possibly a weasel way to explain how my character could be a Breton dark brotherhood assassin who saves the empire and yours could be a great knight and fighter. Because the scrolls show the possible outcomes but only time can reveal what scroll comes true.

While true in a way, both those explanations is as bad as saying CHIM is the CS.
There's still some people in the TES'verse who actually sat down and wrote (or created) the Elder Scrolls.
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Post » Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:35 pm

duh... do they not have elder scrolls about the gods? (I actually do not know)
Who put them on Nirn?

how can we ansewer that if right now they can bnot be read the priests cant now cause thy are blind from reading them
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Post » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:17 am

not "To be older than, predate"

I would say that exceed means the scrolls are greater than the gods, that they have power over everything. what they say (which from some articles seems they say a variety of possibilities) has dominion over everything, and can't be messed with. If the scrolls say Dagon is going to go smash someone, he is going to. That's it. At least that is my opinion.

so if u say that they prodict the future that means when u write it ur a pychic it would then be like the library of order in the SI
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Post » Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:43 am

Not all of the preists are blind...

While I'm not an expert on the subject, the text I recall reading gave me the impression that only one Priest reads them.

edit: You don't write them in the traditional sense; you write them because you existence CREATES them.

It's not like the Library of Order because the Scrolls can't, or just don't, predict EVERY SINGLE action, if I interpret relevant texts correctly; they are just tuned to specific points in time.
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Post » Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:11 pm

anyone can read them, but the more you read them the blinder you get.
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Post » Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:10 am

MK wrote them.

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Post » Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:48 pm

While true in a way, both those explanations is as bad as saying CHIM is the CS.
There's still some people in the TES'verse who actually sat down and wrote (or created) the Elder Scrolls.

Not neccessarily. No where is that suggested (that I've read), that's why they are so mysterious.
edit: You don't write them in the traditional sense; you write them because you existence CREATES them.


That's EXACTLY the impression I get, I agree. To me, that's the point of the game I think I even read a developer talking about how "each player create's their own story (or write's their own elderscroll)" but I don't have an actual quote or anything to back that up.
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Post » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:23 am

Umaril's dad brought them over in his back pocket from the last kalpa. They were actually a receipt for a dozen sweetrolls.
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Post » Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:48 pm

Umaril's dad brought them over in his back pocket from the last kalpa. They were actually a receipt for a dozen sweetrolls.

This post is full of awesome.
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Post » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:14 pm

Man, if the current sweet rolls are so good, I can only imagine what the previous kalpa ones would be like! Mmmm, it post-apoculiscious!
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Post » Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:24 pm

If their power exceeds the gods, then why do they require temporal continuity? When Akatosh gets broken, the scrolls say nothing about the event.
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Post » Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:51 am

i'v always wondered, who wrote the elder scrolls? i picked up a book (can't remember the name of it) in the chapel building of the ancestor moth temple and it said the elder scrolls exceed the gods, both aedra and daedra. just wondering if anyone knows.


Magna Ge
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Post » Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:00 am

uh, no.

did you know the Mages Guild outlawed Necromancy?
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Post » Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:44 am

Bethesda Softworks made The Elder Scrolls.

Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Post » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:29 am

Apparently, the Magna Ge are the Aedra, if I recall correctly (pro'lly don't...). I recall that Magna Ge means "Children of Magnus."

And, as always, no offense, but if you have a question, you can just make a new thread. No one's gonna shoot you. :P
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Post » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:24 am

Well, it's entirely possible that the author sort of wrote itself out of the elder scrolls, causing him to sort of get eaten by the universe.
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Post » Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:37 am

In actuality, YOU write the Elder Scrolls.

Corny I know, but relevant.
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