The Impossibility of Elsweyr

Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:11 pm

They could also do two provinces in one game. For example Valenwood and Elsewyr could both be in the same game since they fit together geographically and they've had wars in the past. That would also solve the problem for people who don't want to see cat-people everywhere (now they'd only be in half of everywhere ;)).
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:45 pm

They could also do two provinces in one game. For example Valenwood and Elsewyr could both be in the same game since they fit together geographically and they've had wars in the past. That would also solve the problem for people who don't want to see cat-people everywhere (now they'd only be in half of everywhere ;)).

The only alternative would be Bosmer? I would rather be around goblins all the time. :P
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:30 am

The only alternative would be Bosmer? I would rather be around goblins all the time. :P


The biggest difference between goblins and Bosmer is that the goblins are less annoying. Oh, and you can get a bounty for killing the Bosmer, while it's entirely permissable to "shut up" the goblins with a weapon.

Having the game take place in a border region, with a mix of several man and mer groups and at least 2 or 3 sub-species of Argonians or Kajiit, would give you a lot of character options, as opposed to doing a game set IN either Elsweyr, Black Marsh, or Valenwood. I suspect that having a game with MOSTLY either Kajiit or Argonians would be absolute bliss for about 20% of the players, "acceptable" to around half, and hated with a passion by the remaining 30%. Giving everyone the chance to limit their exposure to one "hated" group or another might put a major dent in that 30%. Bethesda is probably going to "play it safe", with something that nobody finds objectionable, rather than go with something that a fraction of the marketbase finds particularly attractive while others can't stand. It's not what I'd like, but it's probably what will happen.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:14 pm

The only alternative would be Bosmer? I would rather be around goblins all the time. :P


:D

If 75% of the Valenwood population will be Bosmer they can't all be Adoring fans and Glarthirs though. Treated seriously they could even come off as pretty cool and they'd still be a welcome relief for the 30% of fans Kovacious mentions.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:08 pm

I think Iliana's Elseweyr mod proves this wrong?

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25023
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:18 pm

I think Iliana's Elseweyr mod proves this wrong?

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25023


Read the thread, you'll notice that this has been addressed. Iliana is a modder, and therefore doesn't have to worry about time and development dollars. And to give Elsweyr the treatment it deserves, Bethesda would need both.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:53 pm

Read the thread, you'll notice that this has been addressed. Iliana is a modder, and therefore doesn't have to worry about time and development dollars. And to give Elsweyr the treatment it deserves, Bethesda would need both.


Iliana has more time than a team of 10s of ppl working full time, and more money than ZeniMax?
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:43 am

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25023

:deal:

Hey Beth you should hire these guys...

That mod looks great think if they had a few years to work on that thing....EPIC!
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:55 am

Read the thread, you'll notice that this has been addressed. Iliana is a modder, and therefore doesn't have to worry about time and development dollars. And to give Elsweyr the treatment it deserves, Bethesda would need both.


It has been addressed, but I disagree with the reasoning with which it was addressed. I really don't see what's the big deal with making 16 types of Khajiit from a technical standpoint. I'm willing to bet all my savings that during the development of Oblivion the time spent making character and creature models is a small fraction of the time that was required to build the damn province and fill it with quests. A Senche tiger is no harder to make than a Mountain Lion and a Cathay-Raht would be like a Suthay-Raht, only bigger and with different base attributes. I honestly don't see any reason why the technical aspects of makign that many sorts of Khajiit should be a problem.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:40 pm

I think I'd rather see Orsinium. I kinda like how they're seen as sub humanish brutes. I think that could make for an interesting plotline. We don't know a lot about them -- just that they exist, are strong, and at least in Cyradill they're excellent skooma dealers. They aren't that hard to model either.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:25 pm

If a game were to take place is Elsweyr, it would indeed need to keep the different morphologies of the Khajiit in mind.

That being said, Elseyr is like Blackmarsh - a really cool concept, but ultimately incompatible with an interactive experience. Such provinces are meant to be heard of in lore, but not experienced by the player. Otherwise, they would lose their mystery, no?
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:20 pm

I think I'd rather see Orsinium. I kinda like how they're seen as sub humanish brutes. I think that could make for an interesting plotline. We don't know a lot about them -- just that they exist, are strong, and at least in Cyradill they're excellent skooma dealers. They aren't that hard to model either.


I do believe you mean orcs.... :grad:
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:35 pm

I do believe you mean orcs.... :grad:


I believe he means Orisium, the home city of the Orcs. :grad:
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:17 pm

I agree with you that they shouldn't make a game set in Elsweyr, though not for the lack of time or resources. I just don't like to encourage furries.

Bethesda could make quite a bit of money off of us furries. :P
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:49 pm

Bethesda could make quite a bit of money off of us furries. :P

Well you furries will have to wait until Zenimax applies for the Elsweyr trademark, right now it is Skyrim.
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