Now mind you this is just one old mans opinion and being 70 puts me in the minority of players who buy and play the Elder Scrolls series. From what I have seen of the "NEW" version V it makes me a bit sad. I can understand why the company is doing what they are, heck even an old dude like me can figure it out. I am getting a bit ahead of my self here. So I will Digress just a bit. Elder Scrolls 3 seemed to be the best RPG out there and with or without MOD's is to me still the best. With all of its fractions and guilds, side quests and a different world than earth to look at it is to me the best RPG there is.
I remember thinking that except for the rather clumsy combat it was a game that required you to think and make choices and the multi- layered story line made it better. When Elder Scrolls 4 came along I grabbed a copy hot off the press and was and still am disappointed. To me the company wanted to attract the younger players after all they are the ones who buy the most computer games.
What we got with 4 was great graphic's and a good combat system but the depth of the story line is just not there. The main quest in 4 to me (and I have played it many times) is painful to play and not much fun. There is only 4 guilds and many of us do not like the guild where you kill people and some do not like the sneaking into houses and stealing stuff.
What I had hopped for was an improved graphics game (with the SAME type features in 3 and a story line that had the same great depth of version 3. It is my opinion that the whole concept of Version 4 was to get the younger FPS players and those who think if you have a good combat system and VERY COOL graphics who needs a in depth story line. Just include a construction set and let them do there own(this is not a bad idea in itself) but some us wanted something a little more updated the version 3 with depth of play but got great graphics and a good combat system and a main story line that is a pain to play let alone enjoy.
So I will attempt to install the MGE on my second system which is a 8AN SLI Premium with 2 7950 video cards and a 4400 duel core AMD XP CPU and 2 GIG of RAM. My main system has windows 7 Pro and I am having a lot of troubl;e getting games to run but I am making headway if I install them in there own folder but still have some strange things happen. I am sure that the new version 5 will be a big hit, perhaps game of the year but will nt have the kind of things this old guy wants.
I have steam on both systems but play it on my main system because the monitor can run HDMI and the steam version looks nice in HDMI 1080. I can also run my old XP Pro system on the monitor in HDMI also.

Lats but not least in answering the question I posted. I would have like a game with great graphics like Oblivion and great depth of play like Morrowind. It is possible but I do not think so. I am going to have to learn to install MOD's in Morrow wind even (SHUTTER) on my win 7 Pro system. I tried it with Oblivion and had to have the game reinstalled. I will end up having the same tech MOD my Morrowind steam version and have to pay serious money but to me it would be worth it. If I had a step by step written set of instructions designed for a computer dummy I might try to install that MGE.
Then again who knows there may be some place on the net where there is such a set of how to do it. There was one "package redo" in a post on the steam forum but I went there and they had removed it.

I would like to know what some of you would like to have version 5 be as my idea certainly is not the only one after all most of you are not 70 LOL!

Lawrence.

FAITH

BethsTudios one of those companies, that at times if not the majority DO listen to the players who hold heartedly play their games, and from what I've seen, ill go out on a cliff risking Cliffracer swarm and say. the collective outcry of the fanbase, and ingenuity of the Dev's will show in this game, wether that be a good combination or not is to be seen, but they haven't gone the fable route and stuffed everything into one game, or rather Voice what they are going to do which is what I believe imparts the success. they don't boast about planned features until its relatively done and or implemented. this has had its ...complications in the past but hey.

FAITH.


No one can say they did not like not one of Beths games in regards to the TES series. otherwise they wouldnt be here

i think most of the morrowind players were somewhat dispointed with the depth of oblivion, and i can honestly say i was very taken aback when i realised that i couldnt join the imperial legion on oblivion.
im hoping TES V has alot of factions or atleast good plot depth with lots of politics going on.

Get more RAM, you'll be glad you did.

First of all, salute and respect for your age, it's great seeing someone so open minded at active enough here at 70.
Regarding how Skyrim will be, I mostly agree with your opinion. I won't exagerate and say Oblivion svcked in comparison to Morrowind, but I want more things from Morrowind in regards to the gameplay mechanics. And from what I know until now, in the combat zone at least it seems Skyrim will be a step up from Oblivion. Yup, Oblivion was BGS's try to get known by a lot of people. And I'm really glad they managed, now they can show what they are really capable of. I am sure Skyrim will be a great game, but I too hope it will bring back some Morrowind spirit together with the new advances in tech.
Regarding modding, I too am replaying Morrowind with that new visual pack that upset modders and having a great time. Also on Win7 with no problems, so it can be done.

Well Morrowind only had a great Main story, the side quests were lacking severely. Oblivion could have definitely had a more in-depth main story but it was still a good story. The main story is not what makes the entire game. Since TES is not a linear game it is inherent that only one avenue of story doesn't make the game. Oblivion's combat and side quests were far better than Morrowind's but Morrowind's main story line is far better than Oblivion's. As for your comment on the Dark Brotherhood quests. Why would you hate them? To me, that was one of the best things about Oblivion, you got to kill people your way and in many different, unique ways. I would like Skyrim to have Morrowind's main quest depth with Oblivion's side quest depth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcMX-tXntS0 :facepalm: please dont tell me you are referring to this song

Duuuuude, the game has just been announced and it's in a very advanced stage (i.e. very doubtful that any of our current wishes/requests will be taken into account for this installment of TES). I'm not even going to pretend I read that, because my mind is still processing all the screenshots and info and going like "ooooh, shiny!!!!!!" :shocking:

Edit: My point is that it's not the time for long posts :goodjob:

You really cracked the discussion, man.

Everybody has the right to make his post as long as he wants. Plus, he stated his opinion there, just as you.

I agree that Oblivion has an underwhelming story, but the game play is fantastic. I hardly ever do quests when I play anymore.

I think TES V will have a great main quest. Then again I'm usually optimistic about games. Not sure about the guilds though. I'm betting that there will be the same number or maybe a few more.

11 months is a long time for 100 people to change/add things to a game

What, you think she made up that phrase?

Yes, because the "best of both worlds" expression was invented by that song. Honestly..


I'm going to speculate and say that TES V will be AT LEAST as deep as Oblivion, if not more so, obviously with greatly improved graphics. We'll hope for more, but I'm sure I'll still treasure the game. If it's not our cup of tea, then we can always go back and redo Morrowind playthroughs. That game could last a lifetime :vaultboy:

You're really 70 and play Elder Scrolls? :rock:

Personally I'm not the least worried because I'm one of the biggest Oblivion fans in the world.

Proof that 70 year olds can still act young in type and attitude with "LOL"

Its almost always about faith in the series

I'm in the same boat as OP, except I played Oblivion first, it took me time to get used to Morrowind but when I did, it was like heaven and earth. Oblivion's story was medicre, Dark brotherhood quest was quite good but still, is it too hard to ask for one great quest in the game? Let alone the noob level scaling...

Although I think they suffered from Next gen syndrome which all Rpg sequels seem to have this gen. Oblvion had less depth, FFXIII svcked, Mass effect is leagues below Kotor. The first outing of any sequel(or successor) svcks this gen as far as i'm concerned. The devs have to surpass here previous outing and focus more on looking cool and graphics over gameplay and other more important features....well that's just my opinion about my favourite games and their successors.

have faith

Mr. Todd said that they like trying new things in their games, sometimes they turn out epic but sometimes they fail, in OB it happened that a lot of new things were introduced and granted many things failed, but like you stated many things worked better that morrowind (combat, graphics...etc) and were successful.

so in ES 5 I expect to see a game with morrwoindish like story (maybe better), amazing graphics and sound, and totally revamped combat/stealth/magic system that will hopefully set the new slandered for action RPG games for years to come.